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Look for some weird ones

17 years ago

Howdy,

I thinnk I poosted this before but can't find it.

I am looking for odd tomatoes as defined outside the norm in one way or another.

Normal choosing factors do not apply.

If its the worst tomato for taste, I'm interested.

Most acidic, please let me know.

Most sweet, check, I'm interested.

extremely large flowers? interested.

only blooms on Tuesdays on a full moon? interested.

I just want plants that stand out in one way or another no matter which way one or another is.

stripes, blah, been there, done that.

Bicolored, same

On the list for next year, or have grown already

stick/curl grows like a stick with bunched up leaves

Lutescent changes color alot

stuffer X hollow

micro tom Smallest tom plant ever. very cute.

Arbuznyi Watermelon Looks like a watermelon

big zac freakishly large toms

giant belgium Lots of mega blooms resulting in freakish or freakishly large toms

dwarf champion Unknown ?small plant with big tomatoes?

maxifort The most vigorous tomato plant ever known to mankind. NOTE: The toms are worthless for eating. Tastes like canola oil covered grain paste.

siberia sets fruit in 38 degree weather. We'll just see about that this year, wont we ;).

black sea man odd looking insides

what am I missing?

seedless, very wierd colors

extremely rare?

Comments (17)

  • 17 years ago

    Why not try:

    Purple Smudge, either the original red fleshed or the orange fleshed one that arose by grafting. There's a recent thread about it here at GW.

    Reisetomate, aka Voyage, fused cherry like protuberances all over the surface, kinda like a cauliflower with an attutude.

    I refer to strong or assertive tasting tomatoes, not ones with high acidity b'c varieties tested so far, as far as I know, have roughly the same pH values.

    A few that I can't stand re taste might include:

    Sandpoint
    Tigerella ( the original small red with gold stripes)
    Noire des Cosebeauf
    Purple Calabash

    ......but for every one of the above that I can't stand, there's someone who loves them, I'm sure.

    Maybe I'll think of some others later.

    Note, you referred to Big Zac F1 as having freakishly large fruits, but that's not what I've seen reported back here even though those who grow for competitions can get some in the 3-5 lb range, but I can match that lower weight with other varieties without doing anything and I don't grow for large sized fruits, rather, primarily for taste.

    Carolyn

  • 17 years ago

    Purple Calabash freakishly cool Looking tomatoes. PURPLE tomatoes - with ruffles and very oblate shaped... really interesting - but incidently taste like stomach bile - 'assertive' is being kind.

    I got some weird fruit out of Berkeley Tie Dye last year - odd shapes and funky colors - and not bad tasting (not the best but not bad).

    Omars Leb has some freakishly large (great tasting) toms...

  • 17 years ago

    Contact Tom Wagner

    he has many that fit that all your criteria

    Here is a link that might be useful: Tom's Blog

  • 17 years ago

    From Amy Goldman's book:

    Schimmeig Stoo - striped bell pepper
    Casady's Folly - Plum shaped with carrot-red zigzags
    Some of the Peach varieties that have peach fuzz

    Also,

    Black Pinapple (Ananas Noire)
    Red Star (ribbed cherry, looks like Ceylon but tastes better)

  • 17 years ago

    >Purple Smudge
    >Reisetomat

    Ooooooh yeah, good call! I forgot about these ones.

    > Purple Calabash
    neat-o pedigree. Gonna try this too.

    > Noire des Cosebeauf
    > Sandpoint
    seems impossible to find. are these SSE only?

    > Tigerella
    Is this really the same thing as Mr Stripey, or is someone pulling my leg?
    I've grown Mr Stripey.

    > Note, you referred to Big Zac F1 as having freakishly large fruits,
    I only grew it once so far. One plant.
    I took no special measures, and for that year(last year) they were quite large compared to all the others.
    Ripened well too, which really suprised me.

    > Omars Leb
    That on the plate for this year. I'm quite excited about this one.

    > Contact Tom Wagner
    roger that. he's just a hop and a skip from here. THanks.

    > Schimmeig Stoo
    I've grown this twice, with not much luck :(
    great name though.

    >Some of the Peach varieties that have peach fuzz
    Been there. Kinda cool.

    > Black Pinapple
    thanks, putting it on the list.

    > Red Star
    LOL, those are too cool. thanks for the tip.
    On the list they go.

    Whats the smallest fruit sized tomato, red current?
    Wild mexican?

    Whats the most ruffly tomato?
    I grew one last year that was super regular, but very ruffled. I lost the label.
    Ipsolin maybe?

  • 17 years ago

    I'm very visual:
    Ananas Noire:
    {{gwi:430507}}
    cut up:
    {{gwi:430506}}
    sliced:


    Berkeley Tie Dye:
    Normal bugger:

    weirdo one:
    {{gwi:430517}}
    Don't poo-pooh Opalka it's a weird one too:

    Cherokee Green is a funky colored one... tastes good too!

    Indian Stripe is dark dark with stripes:

  • 17 years ago

    Tigerette: Dwarf, chartreuse foliage, rugose, tiger striped elongated grape fruit.

    Pusa Ruby: Determinate, small, SOUR, red tomatoes from India used for sauces.

  • 17 years ago

    How about Chinese tomato (looks like a hot pepper)?
    Yellow Stuffer looks like a yellow bell pepper.
    Burgess looks like a red bell pepper.

    Also Japanese Black Trifele, or Zapotec with deep ribbing that looks like pleats?

    How about Spoon--said to be pea-sized tomatoes?

    I like Black Cherry--though I don't know if that's weird enough for you.

    Sounds like a fun adventure! Happy growing.
    Dawn

    Here is a link that might be useful: Tomatofest Unique Tomatoes

  • 17 years ago

    You forgot about fuzzy tomatoes, a whole new arena for you
    Try:
    Garden Peach
    Pink Peach,
    Angora
    Furry Red Boar

    And have you tried BROWN tomatoes like Cherokee Chocolate and Brown Berry, Chocolate Cherry and Russian Chocolote?

    How about BLUE/Eggplant purple tomatoes like the OSU Blue?
    That's the cutting edge since you can't hardly get them at all.

    E-mail me if you'd like to find out more about these, since I have a business, the lines on this site get kind of strict about what I can say in a posting without getting it pulled off the site....

  • 17 years ago

    elskunkito,
    I have a ton of Red Star - happy to send you some.
    You are not set up to have GW members email you. If you want some Red Star, click on my Page and email me.

  • 17 years ago

    @cleo
    > I have a ton of Red Star - happy to send you some.
    hmm. I have never had good luck through forum email.
    I just tried and ended in FAIL.
    I would be very interested in ruffles cherries.
    please send terms to junk@ponyshow.com
    I don't have much to offer, I gave most my seeds away this year.

    @sandy
    > You forgot about fuzzy tomatoes, a whole new arena for you

    I have tried a couple of them but forgot to list them as wierd. Which is weird, because they definitely qualify.

    I am interested in fuzzy Red Boar in particular. I raised a Yellowed Striped Boar. One of the tastiest tomatoes I ever had. I wonder if it's a relation?

    > And have you tried BROWN tomatoes like Cherokee Chocolate and Brown Berry, Chocolate Cherry and Russian Chocolote?

    Brown Berry, yes, the others, no.

    I'll put those 2 on the stack for next year.

    > How about BLUE/Eggplant purple tomatoes like the OSU Blue?

    yes, ***VERY*** interested in OSU Blue.
    Please see above email address to set terms.

    I also tried Silvery Fur. It is true to its name. pretty neat.

    @dawncols
    > Chinese tomato, Burgess
    Nope, never heard of it. puttig it on the stack for next year, thanks.

    > Japanese Black Trifele
    7 young seedlings in my green house greet you. They say "Hi!"

    > Zapotec
    Ok, thats weord enough looking to try. Thanks!

    > Spoon
    LOL!!! Good one. Gonna try to squeak them in this year.
    If not, then next for sure. They are CUTE!!!

    > Black Cherry--though I don't know if that's weird enough
    for you.

    Not really wierd enough, but damn a tasty tomato.
    I have about 8 in the green house now. 6 are going to friends per demand from last years crop.
    With a little patience, it will make the best spaghetti sauce ever made.

  • 17 years ago

    What a fun project. Please do keep us posted with your results :)

    Dawn

  • 17 years ago

    I forgot to come back and answer your uestion to me and that was about Noire des Cosebeauf and Sandpoint. Both are listed at Sandhill Preservation as are quite a few others mentioned here.

    Someone mentioned Spoon but that's just a typical wee sized one that's a typical Red Currant. Parks long ago showed a bunch of them sitting in an actual spoon in their catalog one year, so that's how they got the name spoon.

    I guess I must be the werid one, no comments please, LOL, b'c I've grown the majority of the ones mentioned in above posts and don't see most of the as being weird.

    But I suppose one person's weird ones wouldn't be another person's weird ones based on what a person had already grown. Same as I love the taste of_______ and someone else hates it, or these are my top 5, but the person has only grown 20 varieties, so very little to do comparisons with.

    it's all perceptual and subjective and I know when I first started growing tomatoes I wanted to grow the so called weird ones, and did, and grew them only once b'c most of the time they turned out to be novelty varieties in my opinion, as one who grows tomatoes primarily for taste.

    have fun and let us know which were the weirdest for you. LOL

    Carolyn

  • 17 years ago

    I agree, Carolyn. When I first started growing these kind of tomatoes, I thought they all were weird. Now the weird ones are normal to me.
    I had a customer call from Indy, she comes here each year and gets "weird" things. She said be sure and tag some weird tomatoes for her, she'd be up first of May to get them. I had to think and think about what might be considered weird....maybe I'm the weird one!

  • 17 years ago

    You beat me to it Sandy. So, how about fuzzy foliage like Smoky Mountain Red (and the fruit is fuzzy).

    There are some with veriegated foliage - I can't remember the name but I seem to recall Craig talking about something he got Charlette Mullens.

    So there are a couple of more ideas.

    Randy

  • 17 years ago

    Randy, the variegated one that comes true from seed b'c all others of that type have to be propagated vegetatviely is cleverly called Variegated, or Variegata for those who want to be upscale a bit. LOL I've grown it and still have a boatload of old seeds b'c when it was introduced, probably from Ireland, there was huge demand from my SSE YEarbook listing.

    Stems and leaves are cream and green as long as high temps don't come along and the green fruits have wedges of darker green at the stem end but ripens up all red.

    The one you're thinking about that Craig got from Charlotte Mullens is just a pale leaf Mortgage Lifter; all else is the same.

    But speaking of pale leaves I just remembered Lutescent for lovers of weirdness. Probably the original Livingston variety Honor Bright.

    Leaves are a sickly yellowish green color, blossoms ivory to white and fruits go from green to white to yellow to orange to red and fruits of all colors are on the plant at the same time; quite a site. And the red fruits aren't all that bad tsting, but, I wouldn't grow it for taste, that's for sure.

    I'm pretty sure that Victory Seeds lists it since Mike is the Livingston variety expert along with Craig LeHoullier.
    This variety probably appeared from what's called a pleiotropic mutation which means that one mutation changed the expression of lots of other genes at the same time.

    Carolyn

  • 17 years ago

    I think Green Sausage is pretty weird,... small chili pepper shaped fruit, green with yellow stripes on a short, determinant plant with wispy foliage.

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