Heat can make the difference in color. The outside ones probably got hot. If they got too hot they are dead. I assume you know Celebrity is a hybrid?

Dave

Phyllis, I've saved seeds and processed them from several thousands of tomato varieties and have dried some outside, but never in the sun, and some inside.

And I've never seen a difference in seed color,

The seeds should be a buff color and if there are darker brown ones, they usually germinate OK, but if the seeds are almost black it means that they were overfermented or the fermentation container was left to dry down.

And Dave has spoken to the saving of seeds from Celebrity F1, meaning that your saved F2 seeds will not give you back what you know as Celebrity F1. That only happens when the variety is non-hybrid, called an OP ( open pollinated) and even then if there were no mutations or crosses that occured.

Carolyn

That makes perfect sense as far as the color,but it's never happened to me before. Ive been saving these seeds for years and it seems to work for me. The tomatoe I get from them is very good. Maybe they weren't Celebrity to start with I sure wouldn't bet on it. Over the years when tomatoes pop up from the year before I just move them out of the way and let them grow and most of the time they do good. I also have some Cherokees,Jubilee,greens and stripes plus the different cherries.....almost forgot and a white one which I've never seen only read about can I save seed from that one? Thank you so much for the info and I promise I won't call them Celebrity anymore

Phyllis, if you're growing plants from volunteers, as you said above, there's really no way to know or name the varieties you have. If hybrids,as mentioned above, they don't come true from volunteers or indeed saved F2 seed from the actual fruits.

If the initial varieity is open pollinated then there's a chance that the volunteers could be OK, but I think you'd know that once the fruits appear and you can ID them as being a specific variety that you started out with.

Every year I used to take 10 volunteers from the field where I was growing tomatoes and transplant them elsewhere, just for fun and to see what I'd get and to see if I could ID them, and sometimes I could, and sometimes not. But I nevere saved seed from them.

There are many varieties that are called white, but actually are more ivory in color and the final color can depend on the variety, the degree of foliage cover and the amount of UV. So fruit colors can range from ivory to pale yellow to even a deeper yellow.

For me the whitest and best tasting of the large white fruited varieties is White Queen and it actually has some taste to it, which I find is missing in most so called whites that I've grown.

This year I'm growing a new white one called Fantome du Laos which someone I know well suggested I grow and sent me the seeds, so we shall see.

And yes, you can save seeds from white ones as well, as you asked above.

Carolyn

Thank you Carolyn, I think that's the one I have White Queen.The only ones I can ID are the Jubilee and that's because it's yellow and who knows I've probably got that wrong also,but I'm not gonna worry about it since I'm the only one who eats them besides my neighbors and they don't care,Haha I'm glad there are people like you and Dave to ask all the questions I might have. Thanks again.