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worms dont seem to be eating

I only feed them natural foods no meats or dairy or fats...and all they do is hang out under the second layer of bedding. They have the food gone on the first layer. Why wont they eat? I was also looking through my bin last night and noticed a couple pregnant worms plus lots of babies(not potworms, already delt with them)What/how does everyone feed?

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  • 17 years ago

    Since the worms are alive and you've got "lots of babies", they are certainly eating, just not as fast as you think they should. So ask yourself a few questions:

    1. Are you feeding more than they can eat?
    2. Are they outside or inside? -- If outside, the weather in Nova Scotia might still be too chilly for much activity. They might be under the bedding to keep warm. When I open my outdoor WF in the morning, there are no worms to be found in the upper tray; but in the warm afternoon it is a veritable Superdome. They could also be hiding from the light whenever you raise the lid.
    3. What are you feeding them? -- Harder foods, or big pieces take longer to breakdown. Finely chopped lettuce or a blenderized slurry would disappear faster than a stalk of broccoli.
    4. How is the size of the bin relative to the population?
    5. How do you feed? Evenly over the entire surface? Trench? Or pocket? -- The worms will congregate wherever the food is. Too many places and a small populaton will look even smaller; one yummy Food Court will be teeming with vermi.

    Remember that the worms don't actually eat the food you put in the bin; they eat the microbes that feed on it. Try freezing or nuking the food before feeding. That will speed the decomposition.

    You could also try giving them a slice of melon (sans seeds which take forever+day to breakdown) or a sprinkle of oatmeal. The first is a favorite treat, the second is often touted as a fattener.

  • 17 years ago

    1. I havent fed them since Christmas.
    2. Inside and its usually 25C(79F)
    3. Mostly coffee grounds and the paper filter, I fill a ice cream container with coffee grounds, banna peels, and other fruit and vegetable scraps, I never tried grinding everything up.
    4. 13L X 9.5W X 6.5H, I started with a quarter of a pound.
    5. I feed evenly over the surface.

    Hope this helps you to help me, I have oatmeal I may give them some to try to fatten them up before I put them outside next month. And yeah its still pretty chilly here daytime high of about 5C(40F), over night -5C

  • 17 years ago

    "They have the food gone on the first layer" -if you're feeding alot of coffee grounds it can be hard to tell if they're all gone- there could be nutrition left in them yet!! Even if they pass through one worms gut, they can then decompose further and still be food.
    Also, I don't know how much you're feeding or how long you've had your worms, but a quarter pound is not a huge amount. Expect at the absolute most about one pound of food a week consumed, probably alot less unless you've got a very efficient flow-through system going.
    You also say you have "some pregnant worms". Worms don't get 'pregnant' as such. The band you see is the clitellum, just a sign of sexual maturity. Worms exchange sperm, and produce cocoons (eggs)until the the sperm run out and they have to mate again. So if you're not used to seeing a clitellum on your worms, you may have started off with a quarter pound of immature worms, intent on growing, and eating faster than the adults would. So if they're all maturing about now, you might see a slight slow down in feeding until the next generation gets going.
    If you had no mature worms to start with, the babies you see may be the result of cocoons that came with the worms and bedding when it was supplied. (worms take at least four or five weeks to hatch and may take waaaay longer). Again, it all depends on how long you've been going.

  • 17 years ago

    I set up last October.

  • 17 years ago

    ...noticed a couple pregnant worms....

    OrganicPepper...how do you know they are pregnant?

    Just wondering because I've never noticed that. My bin is doing good, and I always have cocoons, so I know they must be/have been pregnant at one point.

    What should I be looking for?

  • 17 years ago

    ice_worm accoding to above they arent pegnant, have a read above, look for a pale color band that goes all the way around the worm. What do the cocoons look like cathd66?

  • 17 years ago

    Organicpepper,
    You should definitely be feeding them since Christmas.
    I'm sure it you put some food in a little pocket, they'll be all over it in no time. Coffee grounds don't break down into the slimy rotting goop that worms like to eat, so it's hard to know whether they eat it or not. The only way I know that mine like coffee grounds at all, is when I sprinkle it over something really yummy. I actually stopped feeding the grounds, as I wasn't sure they were eating it, as it blends into the castings.

    Here's a pic of a cocoon, so you can see if you have any.

  • 17 years ago

    How reproduction works with worms is they are both male and female but not self fertile. They must mate with another worm of their species to be fertile. They mate with their cletellums clamped together. There is a slot in the cletellum that is used to transfer sperm. The worms store the sperm and it can be used to fertilize the eggs in several cocoons.

    When the worm makes a cocoon a mucus forms on the cletellum. The mucus hardens into the shell of the cocoon with the eggs inside. The worm then backs out of the cocoon while the shell is hardening.

  • 17 years ago

    cool, now I know what I am looking for. The cocoon looks quite big(for what it is). Is the finished castings a brownish color?

  • 17 years ago

    The finished castings are dark and crumbly similar to potting soil.
    I average about 3 months between harvests. When my bins are 1/2 to 3/4 full, I harvest. I just use Rubbermaid bins.

    The cocoons are lemon yellow when they are newly laid, and darken to dark brown prior to hatching.Once you see one in your bin, they're easy to spot, although you do have to look closely. Mine are often found in little clumps of newspaper.

  • 17 years ago

    Worms really, really like coffee grounds. I have fed mine mostly coffee grounds and banana peels for years.

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