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Worm suicide!

20 years ago

I have a three tier system with holes between the three levels. The lowest level is just for the liquid produced and then I alternate the top two levels with food. Anyway recently my worms have started going down into the lower level for a quick swim or a drink or something I thought. Although some do seem to "swim" around I have noticed that there are several dead ones down there. Too much partying? Also my bins have recently had an outbreak of some kind of very small oblong shaped white bugs. There are small bunches of them on top of the liquid and all over the food. What are they?

Comments (9)

  • 20 years ago

    Take a look at the link below. Those creatures start out about the size and color of a grain of rice. They can eat huge amounts of raw organic material without anything breaking it down for them.
    Which system do you have? Most of those systems have a collection tray, for drainage, and then 1 working tray. You would add the next tray, only when the first tray was 3/4s full of compost.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Soldier Fly Larvae

  • 20 years ago

    yes, if you have soldier fly larva, the worms are trying to go deep to get away from them ........ and worms like being quite moist, but can't swim

    soldier fly larva are likely to happen in material that's too wet, do you add any bedding material to the mix?

    Bill

  • 20 years ago

    Thanks for the feedback. It is not a soldier fly larvae problem I have. Think much smaller. The white bugs I have are the size of this dash -

  • 20 years ago

    Thanks to sqh1's site I think I have identified my infestation as spring tails. They seem to be beneficial though and might not have anything to do with my worm problem? I will try Bill's suggestion and add more bedding material for my worms so they will be happier and hopefully that will solve my problem.

  • 20 years ago

    yes springtails are normal [good even] and don't bother worms - but may indicate your bin is wetter than necessary - best to try to keep the surface area on the dry side to discourage various things like fruit flies and compost gnats, and make sure the lower levels are not too compacted by the wetness

    Bill

  • 20 years ago

    Here is a suggestion for keeping the worms from drowning in the lowest level of your bin: fill this area with dry shredded newspaper, which will act as a kind of filter keeping the worms and castings on top of the paper and letting excess moisture drip through. It will also help keep the air vents and spigot (if you have one) from clogging with castings. Clean it out every few months (when you rotate trays) by transfering the now-wet paper/castings/worms to your new working tray and refilling the collection area with fresh dry bedding. Voila.

  • 20 years ago

    I have had a similar problem - well the first part at least. Several worms, maybe 10-20 went down into the collector bin with the water. I read that I should build a newspaper ramp by putting some pages on top of an upside down glass so the worms could climb back up into the food bin. I did that and today, three days later, there are over 50 worms down there.

    I can't see what problem they are having. They seem to have plenty but not too much food. It's not smelling bad and there are no unwanted creatures.

    Any suggestions?

  • 20 years ago

    They are not having a problem. They just like it down there. I have a thriving Can-O-Worms, and I always find a ton of worms in the collector bin, swimming around in the goop. See my comment above about how to keep them from drowning/clogging the vents. But, if you have no odors and the worms aren't dying, you could just let them have their fun down there.

  • 18 years ago

    I have the Can O Worms and I have found that it's a good idea to check the collector bin frequently, because inevitably some worms make it down there. I figure since the collector bin is mostly worm waste it's not that great for them to be there so as long as they appear healthy I move them one-by-one to one of the top bins.
    When I first started vermicomposting I had the bad experience, like many folks do, of a large number of worms dying, and most of the dead ones had gone down into the bottom collector bin to die. I think that I had made the bins too wet and they were trying to escape that.
    That was a learning experience and it hasn't happened since.
    jt

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