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Rodent in the worm bin

21 years ago

I was just out to harvest my worm bin and when I stuck my garden trowel in - something came flying out of there! I screamed my head off and saw it run under our tool shed. It was some kind of rodent - mouse - rat - I don't know what.

Should I be concerned about this and the potential of these critters carrying disease to our household? I live in an urban area and though our yard is hardscaped with a lot of brick and concrete - our neighbors on either side have lots that are very overgrown and have fruits trees. So I have seen these rodents often in their yards. Someone told me they were tree rats. I have the worm bin - just outside our kitchen door, because it is the only place on our lot where it won't be in the sun at some point. I really don't want to put the worms in the garage. I can tend to be a little forgetfull and once last year, when we were in the process of moving from our other house to this one, I forgot to feed them and they ran off in search in vittles. I don't want them escaping into our garage. Should I leave well enough alone and keep the worm bin where it is?

It's summer time and the worms love melond rinds so they have been getting a lot of watermelon. Is this what attracted the rodent? If we had a bigger lot and I could put the worm bin farther from the house I wouldn't be so worry - but I'm concerned that our dog door which is easy entry to the house is less than four feet from the worm bin.

Whew - thanks I feel a little calmer now, but any thoughts on this?

Pamela

Comments (5)

  • 21 years ago

    Sounds like a watermelon rat. Dont see too many of them Stateside. Consider yourself a bit lucky that it flew off like that. They have been known to defend food and family scholastically. Did you get a look at any markings in the inner jaw? That will tell you whether it was nesting nearby or not. Hopefully, for your sake, it wasnt.

    Toto - did he look like the pic in the link?

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  • 21 years ago

    Yikes! That would have made my hair stand on end!

    What kind of bin do you have? Rubbermaid? If so, poke some holes in the top and keep the lid on. If something else, can you put a board or something over it?

    You don't want your box attracting rodents at all. They can be damaging to your home, nesting under it, in the eaves, etc. You don't want them, and they can be hard to get rid of. If they have a source of food, they will stay.

  • 21 years ago

    It is possible for the rodent to spread disease, Your bin should be rodent resistant. The other thing that is probably happening is that the rodent is eating your worm population.

    Im sure that the worms can go through the bin and clean up after the rodent making its poop inert, but there does need to be worms to do that.

    Rodents can easily eat through plastic and wood. Wrapping your bin in hardware cloth should provide enough resistance to deter them in the future. For the immediate time you should find where it entered the bin and block it off.

    There is no telling what attracte the rodent, however, the constant source of food found in a bin would be very desirable to any and all pests.

    Bryan

  • 21 years ago

    Ok, Pamela, I want you to sit back, take three deep, slow breaths and relax. Believe it or not all is well and nothing abnormal or unhealthy is going on with your worm bin. Rodents often pass through healthy worm bins, but rarely do they set up housekeeping in them, nor are healthy bins going to attract vermin not already present on or near your property. The overgrown landscapes on the adjoining properties almost certainly support many small rodents who will visit the bin, but the presence of the bin is not going to increase their numbers, nor will it bring more of the rodents to your property than would normally pass through. Rest assured that the worm bin is not creating an unhealthy environment near your home.

    A worm bin is only considered a rodent attractant of it is anaerobic and smelly. The mercaptans produced through anearobic decomposition becomes a clarion call that can bring them in large numbers but 1) ONLY if there are already large numbers in your local 2) ONLY if the bin is stinky enough that you are able to smell it. Few rodents will find the food scraps in the bin sufficient to warrant regular visits and the worms are not a significant food source for mice or rats. A healthhy worm bin is NOT a vermin attraction.

    I hear folks often speak of rodent-proofing their bins, but this is no easy task and is of questionable value when one keeps in mind that the bin is not a vermin nesting site or typical feeding ground.

    It is always alarming when something unexpected jumps from the bin, but know that this is a rare occurance that, alone, does not indicate problems in the system or suggest that the bin poses a health risk to your, your family or your pets.

    Make sense?

    Kelly S

  • 21 years ago

    Thanks for all the responses. I did end up moving the bin to the far side of our backyard - as far from the house as I can manage. It won't be in complete shade all the time, so I'll need to check to make sure the worms don't roast.

    The bin is a plastic one I bought from the city of LA. I did set a couple of large rocks on top of it also. The rodent was probably 5-6" long and grey - sounds like a rat huh? We have a cat who used to hunt the squirrels in our old neighborhood. He is always watching these rats which is how I noticed them in the neighbors yard. So far he hasn't gone after one himself, maybe I need to put him on a diet so he'll get a little hungrier?

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