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Started some seeds yesterday-- newbie questions!

16 years ago

OK, I'm very excited to be starting my first garden at our new house. I will be building raised beds for herbs and veggies. Most of our yard is surrounded by mature maple trees, so the food garden will get a fair amount of shade. Flowers and some other plants will be container gardened on sunny front porch.

OK, on to my question!! I bought the kind of starter pots that you can just plant right into the ground (Jiffy pots). So, my question is, what seeds should I start ahead, and what ones should I direct seed? Transplanting tender young seedlings should not be an issue since I will just plant the Jiffy pots right in the raised bed when the time comes. Right now the only thing I plan to direct sow is lettuce, and spinach.

Here are my other plants-- are there any I should NOT pre-start? I have a black trays with clear plastic greenhouse dome near a sunny window to start these in. Thank you for your help and comments!

Veg and Herbs:

Catskill Brussels Sprouts-- I know to plant in the ground in fall, but when should I start the seed then? Now? Summer?

Bleu of Solaise Leek

Pea, Amish Snap

Cilantro, Slo-Bolt

Oregano, Vulgare

Herb, Genovese Basil (will go in sunny planter in front yard)

Herb, Rosemary

Parsley Giant Of Italy

Flowers:

Ball's Improved Orange Calendula

Sensation Mix Cosmos

Flower, Blue Poppy

Here are my planter pots, which it says you can just plant right in:

http://www.fedcoseeds.com/ogs/OGSorderItem.php?id=9026&listname=Seed-Starting

Comments (5)

  • 16 years ago

    Leeks from seed you would want to start asap as its getting late for them. Same with parsley. Soak the parsley seed in warm water overnight to coax them to sprout.

    Peas you can plant outside when the ground can be worked. My cilantro reseeds itself, so I would plant them outside as well. Maybe space the seeding two weeks apart starting in mid-May. Basil I use with tomatoes so I don't need an early start with them and plant them outside in late May. Cosmos also reseed for me, but if you want earlier blooms I'd start them inside in about 2 weeks (April 1). Poppies I plant when the seeds ripen in the fall so they could go outside now.

    tj

  • 16 years ago

    I would head over to the 'starting from seed forum'

    A few comments/tips.

    Direct sow Peas

    Like said above it is a little late for leeks, rosemary and parsley, but you can give it a shot.

    Flowers, except for the poppy, can all be started inside if you want, otherwise you can direct sow them.

    I don't want to burst your bubble, but you will get few to no veggies if planted under Maples. Maples have VERY shallow root systems and will eat up all the water and nutrients before you plants have a chance. They also make VERY dense shade. Veggies need full, intense light to thrive and part shade to hobble along through the season.

    Jiffy pots/pellets are terrible, the roots can not grow through the netting and peat holds water. Too much water = dampening off disease.

    If you are determined to use them. Make sure you remove the netting before you plant them outside. This will rip off the tips of the roots, but it should bounce back.

    Un-germinated seeds need a dome only. As soon as they break the surface of the soil (germinate), the dome must be removed. If a sunny window is all you have for light the plants will be leggy, they won't die but they will be scrawny. Most of us prefer shoplights 12-16 hours a day 1-3" away from the seedlings.

    I hate to be Debbie downer, but how late the season is and the shade you are dealing with will frustrate you in the long run.

    Any flower that reseeds itself should be planted in the ground, not a pot if you want it to come back next year.

    Ohh.. Oregano.. be sure you plant it in a container. This plant will take over your beds.. you just can't kill it.

    I hope that helps and be sure to stop over in the 'Growing from seed' forum

    Keriann~

  • 16 years ago

    Thank you both for the helpful comments! If it makes a difference, I will be building a raised bed with its own soil mix, so I don't think the maple roots will compete. The shade is a factor, but I think I've found the area of the yard that gets a decent amount of sun to make it work. I've grown other herbs there... we shall see. I'll check the seed starting forum too, thanks!

  • 16 years ago

    If you can get a lot of morning sun, that will make up for afternoon shade. In fact sometime it is preferable.

    By the end of the season, you may want to see how many maple roots have grown 'up' into your raised beds.

  • 16 years ago

    That's really great to know about maple roots. Three of my beds are near our maple trees. I guess I'll definitely have to turn them into raised beds next year.

    I had a fair amount of success with my brassicas, celery, summer squash, and zucchini growing in the partial shade.

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