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18 years ago

I have been spraying with Daconil (Ortho Garden and Disease Control), along with Messenger and neem oil at the recommended rates, before my plants showed any symptoms of anything.

But one plant showed black specks, which are spreading to the others. It most closely resembles bacterial spot and/or speck, as some of my green maters have lesions (unless some critter could have done it - but there is no penetration).

The Daconil, et al. is obviously not helping.

Is it game over for me? I've read suggestions about copper use before the onset of bacterial disease.

not to mention tons of red aphids on one plant (neem oil did nothing) - I've ben through 1000 ladybugs (all left), Mantids (all left). Time for the nuclear option (SEVIN) which I have never used.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Yes, I have been ground watering, trying not to wet the leaves, and I have a mulched raised bed. This is really getting to me.

Zone 6b-7 (Upper Marlboro MD)

Comments (12)

  • 18 years ago

    There is a product on the market called Oxidate. It is supposed to be good for bacterial speck. This product is nothing more than hydrogen peroxide with an agent that keeps it from breaking down in sunlight, like when its in a big agricultural tank sprayer. I use hydrogen peroxide as well as Daconil in my garden. I don't have any conclusive results because I was not able to keep a regular spray schedule this year but I believe the combination to work. The peroxide kills any surface bacteria while the Daconil boosts the immune system of healthy foliage. Here is a link to using peroxide in the garden.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Hydrogen peroxide in the garden

  • 18 years ago

    The Daconil, et al. is obviously not helping.

    ****Daconil is an antifungal so if it's a bacterial foliage disease it can't help.

    And yes, a copper containing product such as Kocide or similar might be able to help/

    ( while the Daconil boosts the immune system of healthy foliage.)

    What Daconil does is to cover the specific attachment sites on the leaf surface for the most common fungal diseases so that the spores can't attach, germinate, and invade the leaf.

    Carolyn

  • 18 years ago

    I have been spraying with Daconil (Ortho Garden and Disease Control), along with Messenger and neem oil

    You know it is possible to OVER-treat your plants and thereby create even more problems for yourself. ;) By using all those sprays you have been getting the leaves wet on a regular basis.

    Different sprays, just like prescription drugs, can interact with and negate each other.

    Dave

  • 18 years ago

    Well, I have been mixing the products, so all are sprayed at the same time, so the leaves aren't getting wet regularly. None of the products mention not mixing, but it is certainly possible they are having a negative effect on each other.

    I will try the copper, is it ok to combine with Daconil?

    thanks.

  • 18 years ago

    I too am having a terrible problem with fungus this year.

    Can I add the hydrogen peroxide to my daconil sprayer?

    Thanks,
    Erin

  • 18 years ago

    I find it is best to NOT mix products. That way you know which is working and which isn't. Plus you avoid the possible interactions.

    The copper OR the hydrogen peroxide will work on the bacterial problems but not fungus and the Daconil does nothing for bacteria, only works on fungus.

    Dave

  • 18 years ago

    Actinovate

  • 18 years ago

    I read somewhere not to mix cooper with Daconil. I regularly mix Sevin with Daconil will no ill affects, BTW.

  • 18 years ago

    Well, I tried mixing the hydrogen peroxide along with Daconil in my sprayer early today. We'll see what happens. I too don't like to mix chemicals. However, with all the rain lately, I'm loathe to wet the leaves more than I have to.

    I'll let you know if my fungus issues go away.

    Slightly off topic - I did have a "Eureka!" moment today. All my life I've been plagued with a skin reaction that happens a few times each year. It's not seasonal, happens both indoors and outdoors. My skin on my fingers and palms will get really itchy, turn red, and swell up making the skin tight. I usually scrub them real well and apply moisturizer to get the itch to subside.

    I found out today what it is- FINALLY!! When I was removing the infected leaves and branches prior to spraying, I came down with a nasty case of it on my "picking" hand. Dummy me didn't wear gloves. Figured I'd wash up real well before touching anything healthy.

    That itch is from spores! As a note, I've gotten this reaction when I'm in museums, libraries, and camping.

    Two lessons learned #1 wear gloves, #2 my Mom was right. It is some kind of mold/fugus. Never doubt Mom.

    Sorry, off topic for tomatoes. Thought it may help others, though.

    Erin

  • 18 years ago

    erin, daconil can be a skin and eye irritant too for some people --don't get that on you either.

    Here is a link that might be useful: daconil

  • 18 years ago

    Thanks, Farkee. I definitely don't want the chemicals on my hands.

    I believe putting the hydrogen peroxide in with the Daconil was a good idea. At first my pepper plants looked a little "sleepy" for about 24 hours. Since then, all plants have perked up and the peppers have gone back to a dark green color.

    I'm not seeing near the rate of damage from the fungus. It's still there on a few leaves- noticed today. It's been 4 days since I had to pick bad leaves.

    Erin

  • 18 years ago

    Erin,I was of the understanding that Daconil should not be applied to peppers as they are not on the list of plants it is to be used on.Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

    Jim

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