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Cool climate tomatoes

19 years ago

Hi all,

I'm a recent "import" into northwest Washington (an hour north of Seattle) and I grew a few tomato plants this year, two cherries (one golden and one red) and two Early Girls. The cherries were both great, and I'll plant them again next year.

I'm pleased with how the Early Girls grew and produced (we're still picking, and have gotten a great harvest already), but not so much the flavor. Could someone please recommend a full-flavor (preferably heirloom type) variety that will perform well in my cool summers? It doesn't have to be a widely-available variety (and therefore available as transplants), as I have access to greenhouse space to start my own seeds.

Thanks!

Comments (9)

  • 19 years ago

    Sunset Red Horizon and Neves Azorean Red did very well for me this year. I will have seed if your interested.

  • 19 years ago

    >>I'm pleased with how the Early Girls grew and produced (we're still picking, and have gotten a great harvest already), but not so much the flavor.

    Matina will be about as prolific but has a more typical tomato flavor. It is mild-flavored but "authentic". I think it will actually beat Early Girl; it blooms very young and grows strong. It's a "salad type", about 1.75" diameter. Territorial carries it but I could send you some seed if you like.

    Next year I'm trying "Andean Horn"; it's popular in France and Germany at about our latitude.

    Gardener's Delight is a cherry type, but I am amazed at how sweet,full-favored, and prolific they are for an early cherry type. The first few tomatoes were not particularly sweet, but the rest of the crop was. Not too much gel either; they are "meaty" for their kind.

    JWR, I'm working on my first Sunset Red Horizon now. It should be ripe in a few more days.

  • 19 years ago

    I'm in SoCal, but a mile from the coast on the mesa so I get a direct ocean breeze. Things don't warm up much around here.

    I pulled out my records for my spring-summer crop and I note that my wife and I agreed that San Diego had the most flavor. A little hard to find that variety, however.

    We both rated Big Boy high, but good flavor may take more heat than you have, can't say.

    Supice is very popular for good flavor in a smaller, early tomato. We liked Sophie's choice too and it was very productive for us.

    Speaking of small, for us our sweetest tomato was glacier by far.

    Some years Paul Robeson has had a really rich flavor, but a little disappointing in this first round. I have a 2nd set ripening now, we will see.

    We like persimmon for flavor, a bit of tartness, but it is large and the production is minimal. I suppose I don't really have enough heat for this one. I have heard that for a cool climate with low 'heat units' you need to pick one: large size/good flavor. I think it is worse than that. I have grown the huge Delicious for several years with disappointing results. At least I think it is huge, I have never had a single one set.

    A comment about microclimates. We grew the Sugary cherry both in our wind shielded patio and in the back yard exposed to the ocean breeze. The ones in the patio were very sweet, the ones in the breeze were far from our sweetest cherries. The award back there went to sweet million. Since the patio is fully concreted we grew the sugary in a DIY earthbox using a 18 gal tupperware tote. Very productive, very sweet, but sure attracted the aphids. The fertilizer level seemed high and the leaves dark green; some say the dark green leaves are an invite to hoards of aphids.

    Gary

  • 19 years ago

    Four that I plan to grow next year that are supposed to do well in cooler/coastal areas: Julia Child, Marianna's Peace, Valencia and Marmande. I will also be growing Bloody Butcher, Kimberly and Gold Nugget as my "earlies" that should do well in a cool summer.

  • 19 years ago

    Stupice has excellent full flavor. You definitely should try it.

  • 19 years ago

    Some of the seed catalog websites have recommendations for cool climates. Tomatofest.com and territorial-seed.com come to mind for places I have searched. Since Territorial Seed is in the PNW, that would be a good place to start.

  • 19 years ago

    'fruitgirl'
    What zone are you in?
    I suggest Stupice. 2" red, juicy, meaty, and ready in 60 days. A prolific producer that it PL and still producing now and 'til the frost.
    It's a dwarf that grows about 4 ft. and doesn't need staking.

    Rory

  • 19 years ago

    I'm in zone 8, so I don't have really cold weather, but I also never get really hot. In summer, it's very rare to get much above 80, and it takes forever to get warm in the spring. I probably should have asked about super-early varieties!

    Thanks, everyone, for all of your help!

  • 19 years ago

    Stupice is very popular in the PNW. Ed Hume Seeds is a local seed company.

    Here is a link that might be useful: PNW seeds