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Saving seeds using fermentation -- some seeds germinating!

17 years ago

I just started saving seeds and my first batch appears to have some seeds that have germinated! These are from an Oxheart tomato that I removed the pulp from, stuck the pulp in a jar, added some water, shook it up real good and then put it in the windowsill. I did come back and shake it and rinse out the water a few times. After one week I saw that some seeds were germinating.

Question: can the seeds still be saved or is it too late? Once they germinate, I assume they can no longer be stored. Is my assumption correct?

Comments (9)

  • 17 years ago

    A week? Why were the seeds fermenting for a week?

  • 17 years ago

    You asked three days too soon. I set up a germination test yesterday, which including some germinated seeds along with seeds from scalded tomatoes.

    This year I found that germination while fermenting happened with individual tomatoes that took a long time to ripen even though the fruits were picked-processed slightly under ripe. Surprisingly, it did not happen with some rotting tomatoes I picked up off the ground.

    For future reference do not rinse out the seeds, by doing so you are removing the microbes and enzymes responsible for breaking down the gel.

  • 17 years ago

    Thanks for the tips!

    I left for a few days and forgot about the fermenting seeds. In the end it turned out to be a week. How many days should it take? It looks like it takes 2-3 days for the layer of mold to develop.

  • 17 years ago

    I usually give it 3 days, sometimes 4, but often, 4 days is enough to have some sprout.

  • 17 years ago

    P.S. I don't add any water and use the smallest & tallest cups possible that would be mostly filled with the pulp/seeds/gel. That is, if I used a 6oz plastic cup and it was only a third full, I'd transfer to a smaller container, like you'd get with say, a sauce or blue cheese or something along with your food. Taller narrow cups are better to see the seeds sink, as well as easier to wash off later.

  • 17 years ago

    Are you sure they've germinated? Tomato seeds have a little fuzzy green lip that sometimes looks like a sprout to me.

  • 17 years ago

    Travelsfo, go look at this document with pictures I put together. It will answer a lot of your questions and help you better understand the task at hand.

    Ted

    Here is a link that might be useful: Basic fermentation process

  • 17 years ago

    I prescrub the seeds in a sieve and add alot of water to the sieved gel juice. About half the time it takes 3 days at room temperature but sometimes up to 5. It is a lot less messy, time consuming and disgusting to do a little cleaning on the font end. No nasty sludge/floating mold to deal with.

    I use 16 oz deli containers with lids, but ziplock bags work just fine in an emergency.

    I've left seed in for a week many times with no sprouting, the ones that did sprout were sprouted on day 4. Sometimes seeds sprout inside the fruit, generally in store bought fruit possibly from long term storage, so I wouldn't rush to take half fermented seeds out just because you are afraid of sprouting, its going to happen, rarely, or not.

  • 17 years ago

    Travelsfo

    One piece of advice for the future, though shown on TedÂs procedure is the anti-Bond martini- stirred not shaken.
    With a bamboo skewer (I sand both ends so their not too sharp) you should stir and separate.
    Anyway- IMO you shouldnÂt try to store seeds that sprouted as the seed coat must be intact.