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Mini dwarf tomato plants

11 years ago

Hello everybody,

I am very new to gardening. So far, after many failed attempts I've managed to finally grow a pot of mint and one baby curry leaf plant that's still doing pretty alright. I was guilty of over watering, over fertilizing, etc. Typical newbie.

Here is my question :

I want to attempt growing mini dwarf cherry tomato. I only have a small balcony space, so tomatoes that require huge containers are not an option. I have looked around and there are quite a few mini dwarfs around but since I like the sweet flavoured cherry tomato variety, can those who've grown and tasted their mini dwarf tomatoes recommend the sweet varieties to me please?

Examples:

Sweet N Neat - 10" to 12" tall. Supposed to be sweet?

Micro Tom - 6" short. Ideal tiny plants but heard they lack flavour?

Red Robin - 10" to 12" tall. Mildly sweet?

Chibikko - 12" tall. Taste?

Tiny Tim - 14" abit too tall but still okie. Taste?

Minibel - 8" to 12"

Mohamed - 12" tall.

Above examples are perhaps the more popular ones. Please suggest, add on or share your opinions...

This post was edited by BrokenThumb on Mon, Nov 10, 14 at 23:29

Comments (31)

  • 11 years ago

    Minibel and Mohamed were really nice. you can grow them in tiny pots too.

  • 11 years ago

    I am in the same boat as you, one growing season under my belt but had a blast and not ready to end it yet. I have just planted two of each Tiny Tim & Micro Tom. All four have germinated. Can't give you any info on taste yet but will be following this thread.

  • 11 years ago

    Hi lindalana, thank you for your suggestions. I have edited/added minibel and mohamed to the list.

    Glad to hear you've had success with these two varieties. I've did a quick search online and Mohamed does not have much of a description on taste. Minibel comes up sweet on one site and tart on another. I'm guessing taste could be affected by soil conditions though.

    Hi sdambr, thank you for your sharing. Also noted you probably have limited space like I do and perhaps you too like the sweet tomato variety(?). Good luck with your Tiny Tims and Micro Toms. Please do kindly update on the taste! Hope we get more suggestions and sharing too.

  • 11 years ago

    I grew Sweet-N- Neat in 2013 season. They were very Dwarf indeed. They wont get taller than 12-14" and not wide either. I would grow them in a 3 gallon pot or 2 of them in a bigger pot..
    They come into fruiting heavy early on but then stop. That is how some determinant and dwarfs are.

    Another small plant I would suggest is Silvery Fir Tree. Not dwarf but a compact determinant getting about 2 ft tall

    Another one is Bush Steak. It gets a bit taller than SFT but you will get good size fruits til the end of season. I would recommend a 5 gallon container for this and SFT.
    I will grow both of those in 2015.

    seysonn

  • 11 years ago

    In addition to red robin and tiny tim I grow one called Hahms Gelbe which is a true micro dwarf. It tops out at 18" high and is very determinate but the yellow cherry tomatoes it gives are low acid and sweet. I grow my dwarfs in the winter in the sunroom. I have seeds if you want some message me. I will send for an sase.

  • 11 years ago

    Hello seysonn, thank you for your sharing. I have ordered Sweet N Neat, as I read there are.. sweet. I'll grow this Sweet N Neat and share how they taste, IF I am successful :)
    Thank you also for your suggestions of Silvery Fir and Bush Steak, 2ft is probably max size for my small balcony space, that's why I've shortlisted those really tiny tomato varieties...

    Hi Karen58, I see tomatoes on your plant. Congrats! Thank you for your kind offer of Halms Gelbe seeds. May I ask how your Red Robbin and Tiny Tims tomatoes tasted? Were they sweet? I keep asking about taste coz I really am not a fan of those acidic/tart tasting tomatoes. It'd be such a waste growing a variety that I would not enjoy eating.

    Thank you guys for your sharing. It's really helpful to small (tiny in my case) space gardeners.

  • 11 years ago

    I really don't like acidic tomatoes and I consider that Silvery Fir Tree is a spitter.

    Red Robin have always done well for me and I liked the taste.

    Linda

  • 11 years ago

    Red Robin is my favorite mini. Good beefsteak-y flavor and the plants are really pretty.

  • 11 years ago

    Hello Linda and Deeby,

    Two votes for Red Robin ~ Wow.. noted with thanks!

    I have just sowed two seeds for Sweet N Neat. +- 60days countdown for results, provided I don't kill them first.

    Thank you for sharing :)

  • 11 years ago

    Another vote for Red Robin here! I love them and so do my friends. They are Mildly sweet, perfect on salads.

    I grew them for the first time 3 years ago and saved the seed, even though they are supposed to be a hybrid.

    The saved seed seemed to hold true to the original.

    I started 6 a few weeks ago, under lights and they are putting on true leaves now.

    I'll be eating fresh homegrown tomatoes way before normal in my area instead of the paper ones from the grocer!

  • 11 years ago

    Red Robin are not hybrids, Yeah!

    Linda

  • 11 years ago

    I'm not sure that they aren't Hybrids Linda!

    I am still using the seed that I saved from the first years crop, which would make them an F-2 I think?

    I have saved seed from the other 2 years, but I haven't planted any yet.

    I might try some in the spring just to see what I get.

  • 11 years ago

    Sorry that I wasn't more clear. The tomato called "Red Robin" is open pollinated and will always come true from saved seeds. Some companies that sell seeds mislead us into thinking that some varieties are hybrids when they really aren't.

    Linda

  • 11 years ago

    Thanks for clarifying that Linda!

  • 11 years ago

    Several years ago I thought RR were hybrid, mostly because somebody posted they were, I think maybe on Daves Garden. But everybody that sells seed says they are op and Carolyn who used to grow them posted they are definitely not hybrid.

  • 11 years ago

    Hi wertach, thank you for your sharing. So Red Robin looks to win this "contest" hands down!

    Well, my two Sweet N Neat seeds, that I sowed on 20th Nov, have germinated and I have two little seedlings. How exciting! I hope these babies grow and produce nice fruits. I will update on their progress :D

    sdambr, please do keep us posted on your Tiny Tim and Micro Tom. Thanks.

  • 11 years ago

    Here are two Timmy and one Tommy (the other Micro Tom was brutally beheaded by me removing his helmet head). They are doing great after 2 weeks. First true leaves here, second leaves on way this morning. Red Robin will be planted soon hopefully. The seeds are in mail to me.

  • 11 years ago

    An update 5 weeks and here are the 2 Tiny Tims, they look healthy but they sure are small. Not sure if this is going well.

  • 11 years ago

    And the Micro Tom even smaller about 2.5"

  • 11 years ago

    Following the foot steps of Sdambr ....

    I have put order for few dwarfs with Sample Seeds. Probably I will start some of the real early , as they are not going to grow that fast.

    Seysonn

  • 11 years ago

    They grow very slow, sdambr. Mine are smaller than yours!

  • 11 years ago

    I have grown Red Robins, Tiny Tim, and Orange Pixie, both indoors and out.

    The first two were approximately six inches tall (not including the planter), and Orange Pixie was 18" and required some support.

    The Red Robin and Orange Pixie's flavor was good, though nothing beats summer tomatoes. Tiny Tim had an unpleasant flavor that almost hinted of rotten, even though the tomato was fresh and unblemished.

    Red Robins were by far my favorite for indoor growing, since they are easier to manage than the taller Pixies. We also had some RRs self-seed outdoors, which were fun!

  • 11 years ago

    How big was your container for the Red Robins? I used gallon-sized containers and my Red Robins were 12" - 18" tall (including the planter). Just in case somebody thinks it's a micro-mini-whatever (LOL).

    I plan to grow Orange Pixie next year.

    I grew Tiny Tim many years ago and I too was left with a bad impression of the taste.

    Linda

  • 11 years ago

    Oh no, hopefully they are not that bad. Are micro Toms ant better? I wanted to try Red Robins, but still no seeds. Maybe in the next week or two.

  • 11 years ago

    An update on my Red Robins.

    I moved them to Solo cups a few day's after Christmas.

    They took off, I think they like the new potting soil (MG) a lot better! I have been moving the lights up every other day.

    I need to move them into bigger pots now, they are 6" tall and the stems are very thick.

    I will have to change my light setup, I have run out of room, I'm on my last chain link.

    Hopefully I can do that Saturday.

  • 10 years ago

    I am reading this older thread to collect opinions about Sweet N Neat. But I want to throw in a plug for Tiny Tim, which I have grown for over 40 years when I want a dwarf.

    This may be primarily a characteristic of a determinant, but you have complete control over the size of Timmy. Whenever his roots start to get root-bound, he produces tomatoes, regardless of size of the plant. I love to grow him in a coffee cup. I think he is so cute at 6 inches tall loaded with tomatoes. If in a 2-4 gallon pot, he gets to be a bushy 2 ft tall before producing tomatoes.

    He requires less light. In fact, he will die in full sun in the garden. He is the perfect indoor tomato because of the low light requirements.

    Granted Timmy is no Sun Gold in taste, but I consider him acceptable tasting. If you grow him 2 feet tall in an apt, you have a pretty abundant supply of tomatoes to add color to salads.

    I threw out Tumbling Tom because of bad taste, and Red Robin had nothing over Timmy. But I wonder how Sweet N Neat compares with Tiny Tim.

  • 10 years ago

    @ Tarolll,...

    As I have commented before , I have grown Sweet N Neat (F1 ?). It was in 2013. It was a true micro dwarf. Last year I discovered Hahms Gelbe Topftomato. It was the same size as Sweet N Neat, with golden cherry tomatoes. Perfect for patio and balcony maybe in the kitchen window with enough sun. HGT is heirloom so you can save your own seeds. That is what I have done.

    Two weeks ago I started some seeds.Here is a picture at 2 weeks.

    Although my plant out date is in April, but I can keep the under lights inside, since they wont be taller than 12".

    here is a picture of mature plant.


    It was also very early. You seed the tomatoes getting ripe


  • 10 years ago

    Seysonn. How do the sweet n neat taste. Your opinions on garden web have been so valuable. I need taste reviews for sweet n neat. re: my question about my hanging baskets for my friends, I am now thinking if some Tiny Tim and some Sweet N Neat. But need opinions about S n N taste.

  • 10 years ago

    Oh wow I never knew there were such small tomato plants!! I think I will try to grow some indoors... I can't wait!! I will re-read this thread and go research the varieties mentioned here

  • 10 years ago

    Taroll,,, I grew Sweet N Neat back in 2013. We bought the plant.

    I cannot remember specifics about its taste. I think it tasted good. The reason I did not grow it the following year was because I could not find the seeds or plants , to be readily available. And because it is (I think) a hybrid, I did not save seeds.

    Sey


  • 10 years ago

    I a video on utube a while back and he said the Sweet N Neat stayed true with saved seeds. He didn't say if it was a hybrid or not.

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