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No window; can it be fixed?

16 years ago

OK, I've been trying to come up with a way to adjust our floorplan so there can be a window in the master bathroom. We haven't built yet. We're still tweeking the plan.

THe challenge: I want to keep the tub and the shower, and I want a door for the toilet area. Ideally, I'd love to have the tub under a window, but perhaps I'm asking for a miracle. Somehow, I have to retain space for a hall linen closet of a decent size.

I've tried all different ideas and can't find a solution. Am I missing something that would work? There doesn't seem to be a good way to create an exterior wall for the bathroom and still keep decent closet space.

CHANGES to plan to Note: in the photo, there is a laundry room. In our build, it will be a closet for the master (with a linen closet for the hall.) ; the current exterior wall of the main closet (right) for the master will be pulled out three feet

FLOOR WITH THE BATHROOM IN QUESTION

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ELEVATION

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FIRST FLOOR PLUMBING LOCATIONS (the "side porch) will be plumbed, too, because it will be enclosed as a laundry room)

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Comments (16)

  • 16 years ago

    Our master bath has no window either, and we are considering installing a light tube. If your main goal is to add natural light, this may be a good solution. If you want the look of a window for aesthetic appeal, that may be more difficult.

  • 16 years ago

    Have you considered using the master closet space with the exterior walls for the master bath and moving the master closet to the windowless interior master bath location?

    It would require a slight tweaking of the walls, and it's not going to significantly unstack your plumbing...but it achieves your goal of getting the master bath on an exterior wall.

    Mongo

  • 16 years ago

    Thanks, I'll look into the light tubes, too.

    Mongo- That was my first inclination, as the space was conveniently located. But, when I tried sketching it out, I couldn't find a way to work with the 6'8" space. I know that it should even out, but it doesn't seem to. I always end up without a closet...maybe because it's so narrow that I have to overflow into the closet space? Maybe I need to look again at moving walls. I worry a bit about compromising the adjacent bedroom/closet.

  • 16 years ago

    Why don't you add a window above the tub where it is now and one on the outside wall across the hall? The window on the bath side could be high enough that you couldn't see into the bath from the hallway, or you could cover the lower part with stained glass or??? You'd get all the natural light and at least a view of the sky maybe? Nice at night to see the stars.

  • 16 years ago

    How about this? If you want more space between the shower and WC you could cheat a little out of the other BR's closet (make the closet deeper instead) and move the WC down a few inches.

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  • 16 years ago

    You'd have to have a narrower vanity to make the space to pass into the shower/WC area feel big snough... but what if you do glass on both sides of the shower (instead of the solid wall I drew) and angle the corner like we did? Then its plenty open. The shower can even be longer if you do that. And your tub could have windows on two walls if you wanted :)

  • 16 years ago

    Oh, whoops, you probably dont have enough room to close the WC door with these dimensions. So you'd have to either steal some more space from the WIC or rotate the WC 90 degrees and take reconfigure the other BR's closet. I dont have the actual dimensions of these spaces so its hard to figure out whether you have the space for that... but maybe this is a starting point anyway?

  • 16 years ago

    I drew the WC room with plenty of space to open the door (door not to scale, its too wide in my drawing!)...Shower could be angled as drawn, or a little shallower (about the same size as your original shower) and with the door on the short end by the bedroom door...

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  • 16 years ago

    You could use a pocket door to the WC in Staceyneil's sketch and not have a problem with clearance. You also have room for a pocket door into the master bath.

  • 16 years ago

    Ah, I hadn't thought of making the closet deeper when cheating on one side. That would make up for some of the loss of space and allow more flexibility. I was having issues with the clearance, too. No matter how I did it, doors where going to hit, or you'd have to squeeze somwhere.

    The master closet (where it is now) would be 6'8" by 16' 8"....and awkward space.

    I like the last one a lot. That seems to have a nice flow to it.

  • 16 years ago

    What did you mean when you said, "The current exterior wall for the master (right) will be pulled out 3 feet"?... is there some extra space someplace that your drawing doesn't show?

    And--- the pocket door is a GREAT idea. Can't believe I forgot about pocket doors, since I am actually installing the hardware on our new ones (for new walk-in-closets) today! Pocket doors are GREAT.

    If the width of the WIC in the last plan bothers you (it's exactly the same width as in your original, though) you could do something like the last plan I drew, but widen the WIC, make the shower 6-8" narrower, eliminate the linen closet, and shift the WC to the right a bit. Personally I would favor the larger bath and shower, and narrower WIC though. You still have about 38" between the shoulders of hanging clothing in that drawing.

    You could also put a door into the closet from the bathroom between the shower and WC, and eliminate the clothes rail in that corner (behind the shower wall) to make a nice dressing area. You would still have a ton of hanging space to the left, even if you lop off a 2-ft-deep closet at the end, accessible from the hall down there. Looks like about 15 lf, or a lot more if you do the over-under type of rails.

  • 16 years ago

    The expansion is not shown in the original photo. It would be like this:

    I like the idea of the dressing area. I think 15 lf would be sufficient. Right now, we live in an old house with tiny closets, so we're paranoid about the closets in the new build. haha! I also prefer the entry to the closet to be in the bathroom. On one hand, I like them to have separate entries, but with this master bedroom layout, I'd like to preserve that wall in case I want our bedroom to face the rear view of the house, which will be quite pretty.

    When it comes to space, functuality is the main concern, with priority going to the shower over the closet. We dream of a nice big shower after living with a 4x7 "master" bathroom for several years now. haha!

    I like the idea of the shower having glass on two sides to make the room feel more open.

  • 16 years ago

    Well, geez, now that there are 3 more feet you can have it all! The bathroom can be longer (read, bigger shower, and more open airy feel) AND you will have a very spacious WIC. Fabulous!

  • 16 years ago

    Do you want me to draw it, or do you get what I am saying?

    I like your architect's hand drawings, by the way. Are they hand done? Everyone's using CAD nowadays and I miss seeing various architect's handwriting and styles come through on plans...

  • 16 years ago

    I think I understand. When I visualize what you're describing, I see the first picture, wtih a door between the shower and toilet. It swings into the closet, so the clothes that are in that picture are removed.

    Yeah, I love the look of hand-drawn plans. They say "home" to me more than the computerized ones.

    Thanks for all of your help! I REALLY appreciate it!

  • 16 years ago

    Exactly. And I would also consider making both walls of the shower glass, for a more open feel. Or, if you keep the end wall solid, reverse the swing on the door from the bedroom. And of course everything gets a little bigger because you have three extra feet! Yay!