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Old Bathroom needs new layout!!

15 years ago

Hello! New here. I've been reading off and on for a few months and love how helpful everyone is.

We have a circa 1971 bathroom that is tired and worn. We recently redid the hall bath and borrowed some space to make the master bath larger. We can't decide on a layout. We've came up with a few ideas and friends have came up with more. Now I fear we are on layout overload.

Priorities are:

1. LARGE shower. (We are tired of hitting our elbows in our Neo-Angle shower)

2. Storage.

3. Re-sale value.

Here is the current existing layout that shows the space we've allocated for the remodel.

And here are some of our "favorite" designs so far. Please give us suggestions and comments. Measurements of main walls are interior wall measurements.

I know in a couple of them I didn't account for real wall thickness but they were quick sketches to see if the layout was even appealing. I'd appreciate any input!

TIA,

itltrot

Comments (23)

  • 15 years ago

    A lot depends on if you want a separate toilet compartment, and how much you want the tub. Is the tub just for resale value? Does it need to be 72"?

  • 15 years ago

    We have a tub in the hall bath so it's not a necessity. It's one of those ohh I'd love to have a tub. Doubt that it would honestly be used that much as we are shower people 95% of the time. If I were to do a tub, yes, I'd like the 72" as hubby is over 6' and the other tub is under 5'.

    The separate toilet compartment isn't mandatory either, as we don't use that toilet for anything other than #1. LOL.

    I also don't think we need the extra "make-up" vanities. But it's an odd room so we are just trying to make it the best we can and not hurt our investment.

    Thanks.

  • 15 years ago

    (We are tired of hitting our elbows in our Neo-Angle shower)

    What size is your current shower? If you have drawn these to scale, several of the showers you are showing are narrower than your current shower.

  • 15 years ago

    I didn't sketch the inside measurements on the existing layout. The 2 long walls are 34" and the 2 short walls are 18" with the door opening being 20"

    So all the shower designs are definitely more spacious. Not to mention the 1971 shower has no niches for soap or shampoo. Shower caddy takes up more floor space. Anything has got to be bigger and better at this point!

  • 15 years ago

    Since more storage is on your top 3 list and a bathtub isn't, I'd eliminate the tub and go with the options that offer more storage. You will find that 12" drawers don't offer much storage. My favorite layout is the one with the toilet where it is now and the vanity with lots of storage across from the toilet. You get a huge shower and more storage, and a vanity - which I never thought I needed but now seems like a great idea (no more leaning over the sink to see my face in the mirror to do make-up).

  • 15 years ago

    You didn't mention what style you're going for. I personally think slipper tubs are way cool. Also, I prefer the bathroom vanity with the short wall beside the toilet. As far as storage goes, you can add an overjohn cabinet. Depending on the style you're looking for and the overall color scheme, there are companies like St. Paul Home Products sold through The Home Depot that provide coordinated collections. You can even build a custom vanity top for it.

    Here is a link that might be useful: St. Paul site and The Home Depot

  • 15 years ago

    faberwerk- Style is mostly transitional. Like lots of modern touches but not overly contemporary. Spa and relaxing with maybe a touch of glam. :-)

    jillalameda- Our current vanity only has 4-12" drawers and the rest is cabinet. I am hoping to find cabinets that will have drawers and cabinet combo in addition to the 12" drawers in the middle. Due to the size, I will probably have to do custom. The reason we are considering the extra vanity space is my hubby thinks it's silly of me to climb up on the vanity to do my makeup. I don't mind.

    Something along this line.

    We are hoping to incorporate recessed medicine cabinets/mirrors as well as storage over the toilet.

    I think we are leaning towards the design with the WC and dual shower (option #5). We may have to modify it a bit as that was a rough sketch.

    If we go with that one, would you do a pony wall with glass, solid glass walls or solid walls? I worry about the cave like feeling with solid walls but also think it would be nice to have the shower controls on that wall so you could just reach around the corner and turn it on without getting drenched.

    Partial wall w/glass

    Glass wall

  • 15 years ago

    I would do the pony walls with glass (like your first photo), and put the controls on the inside of the pony walls. The shower heads can still be on the end walls.

  • 15 years ago

    I like your first layout, esp. if you plan resale. (Some people want a tub.)

    I would maximize the counter and storage space by making the toilet area narrower, about 36". And the pony wall between the sink area and toilet can actually be a high narrow cabinet, to provide privacy and storage. I LOVE the one that mongoct built in the link below. I hope he doesn't mind if I post the link and a picture.

    You have good space on that wall: 138" to play with. Roughly, it seems you could do: 36" toilet area; 18" pony wall; 2 30" sink cabinets; 2 12" banks of drawers. OR make the sink bases narrower to get wider drawers (depends on your sink size.)

    Love the glass shower pics posted above. Nice!

    Pony wall pic:

    Here is a link that might be useful: great pony wall storage

  • 15 years ago

    Chicagoans- lots of great input. I actually stumbled across mongos bathroom today. Amazing skills and creativity. There is a 24" window that is centered over the vanity. I'm afraid to mix it up and mess up the symmetry.

  • 15 years ago

    The advantage of a glass wall is that it makes the space look much bigger since your eye travels a lot depper through the glass. But some people do not like to shower in the open :-) so -- if you are such a person, then pony wall (~4.5 - 5ft high) is better for you!

    The advantage of pony wall over glass wall is that you can accommodate some plumbing in there, but it is thicker than glass and thus takes up more inches in the space.

    Personally, if you do not see a major conflict in the bathroom usage (one showering while other is brushing and one wanting to be alone) -- then I'd get a glass wall.

  • 15 years ago

    homey_bird- The main reason we are considering the glass wall is to keep the space feeling open. I am worried about it feeling smaller with the pony walls. But I think we are going to have to do the pony walls for the shower controls and to have towel bars. I've been studying the plans and I'm not sure where they'd be otherwise.

    No conflict for us as to bathroom usage. Its just hubby and I and we have another bathroom if someone needs to use it.

    I am really leaning towards #3 (one with tub across from entry door) and #5 (one with large shower across from entry door). Number 5 is definitely in the lead due to having more storage options.

    I appreciate any further input especially on towel bars or hook placement. Hubby would really like a towel warmer incorporated somehow in the design.

  • 15 years ago

    I think your nice slipper tub is going to look very squeezed in option 3. You will need to pull it away from the wall a little bit in order to be able to clean behind it. And where were you intending on putting the faucet for it? If you have a pony well at the end of the vanity run, it will only leave you with about a foot of space between it and the tub. If you do go with option 3, I would not put in that pony wall.
    I think option 5 could look stunning if you do something special with the shower tile. I actually prefer the look with the pony walls and glass on top. You still get the open feeling, because your sight line goes all the way to the back wall. It somehow just seems more complete to me, rather than an area that happened to be glassed in for a shower.
    Do you have the option of changing the door from the bedroom to the bathroom? It would be nice to move it over away from the vanity a little to give you more room there, and also to make it bigger. You have the room for that on the bathroom side. It would be nice to center it on the shower.

  • 15 years ago

    Unfortunately, I can't move the bathroom door down unless I get rid of a dresser and I am not blessed with walk in closets. :-(

    We have considered changing the swing of the door out into the bedroom (back towards the vanity wall) as it's a "dead" corner anyways. Or installing a pocket door here and for the WC. I've been leery of the pocket doors because I've seen some bad ones. After reading a few posts on here it must have been cheaper hardware kits.

    I'd really like to free up the space off the door. Especially since whoever is standing at the first sink is always in the way of the door.

  • 15 years ago

    You could also swing the door the other way into the bathroom. If you don't mind the door swinging into the bedroom (some people think it looks "wrong", but I don't), I think that would be the way to go. I did that in one of my bathrooms because I wanted to be able to leave the door open while at the sink, but it would have blocked the window if it swung inward. Johnson Hardware has good pocket door kits. I love pocket doors, but not for bathrooms because sometimes I'm in a rush and don't have time to fiddle with pulling the door.:) Also, if you're worried about towels hanging space, you'll lose the option of using the door if it's a pocket. I read on here somewhere that you aren't allowed to swing a door into a toilet compartment, so a pocket door there would be ideal.
    You have enough room inside the toilet compartment to put a cabinet on the short wall opposite the toilet. You could then get rid of the cabinet outside the shower and put a towel bar there. I don't know what size towel warmers come in, but it might be able to fit there. 48" is a generous width for a shower, so you could even steal a few inches off of there to make room for the towel warmer if needed. BTW, I couldn't tell if your 48" shower width was to the inside of the curb, or if it included the curb.

  • 15 years ago

    I am hoping to add built-ins or something across from the toilet. I thought it would be a great space to tuck in more storage. I didn't think about towel bars and pocket doors being a no-no. Thanks for the heads up. Do you know if you can hang anything on those walls? Like mirrors or art? Probably not if a towel bar won't work.

    Actually, I don't know about the curb. But I think the drawing show the 48" to be on the inside of the shower. No, I know it does. Because the current layout has a small wall and there is 48" for the toilet now and that's where the shower would go. We don't mind shaving a little off the width in order to make a more cohesive design.

    Thanks for the added suggestions. I have more thinking to do!

  • 15 years ago

    I meant you couldn't hang towels on the actual door itself, but you CAN hang a towel bar (or art) on the wall as long as you are very careful with the hanging hardware you use. It depends on what particular model you use, as they come in different configurations. You just have to make sure that the fasteners don't go too deep through the wall.

  • 15 years ago

    Oooohhhhh. Gotcha. I'm good with not hanging stuff on the door.

    I was hoping to incorporate a hamper in the cabinet by the shower. Probably not enough space.

  • 15 years ago

    A shower 42" wide (inside the walls) is still quite spacious, especially since you have a long length. You actually have a couple extra inches for elbow room, because the glass on top sits away from the edge of the wall. That would give you 21" for a cabinet, and I think a hamper could easily fit in that.

  • 15 years ago

    Since you can't move the bedroom door over, you have lots of room for the toilet compartment width. You could use a pocket door, but use an extra-deep wall (or build a false wall in front of the wall with the door). Run your electrical up there and then mount the towel warmer on that wall. You could even build a cool little niche in the wall to the left of the door for displaying art or whatever.

  • 15 years ago

    Hadn't thought about a extra deep wall. I like the idea of having some electrical on those walls especially for the towel warmer.

    I'm going to have to draw it out again and see what I can come up with based on your suggestions. Wish I had a program to do it for me. But the ones I've purchased won't accept my wall sizes. Oh well!

  • 15 years ago

    I like drawing on graph paper. 1/4" = 6". You can put the outline on the graph paper, and then overlay tracing paper on it and try out all sorts of different things without erasing. Just use a new piece or section of the tracing paper each time. Keep all of your drawings; they might come in handy.

  • 15 years ago

    Wasn't sure if I should make a new thread or just continue posting in this one.

    I have a question about designing the 84" vanity. We have a small window (24" wide) centered exactly over the vanity. Should I use 30" sink vanity on each end with 24" drawers in between them or should I use 36" sink vanity on each end with 12" drawers in the middle?

    Also, I'd like to make one vanity taller for my husband but don't know if it'd look right. Should the taller one be the first or the second sink vanity? I'd prefer it to be the first since the second is currently my make up zone. I don't really want to make them all tall because I do climb on the counter to do my makeup. Is that lazy? :-)