Many people have 24" fridges, ovens, and cooktops. A 30" induction cooktop will not hamper your countertop work because you can use the some of the space it occupies when you put a cutting board over it.

I had the 18" Miele dishwasher in my previous kitchen, a very small bungalow. It worked perfectly with the layout, and a larger one would have dominated the small space. If I did such a small kitchen again I'd certainly look at a smaller sized fridge, too.

This is the route I am going. I know some people may shudder but I like to think there are an equal number of people who recognize the more scale-sensitive choices and will prefer them. Particularly if they realize how little they will need a ginormous fridge and so forth. These kinds of choices are much more common in NYC, so if you live in a center city, you should be OK. Or a tiny bungalow. If you are in suburbia you might want to go with a full size DW.

Actually, for my city reno, I think I'm going with a full size DW and 24 inch oven and 24 inch fridge. Easy to go to the market here weekly. No need to store food.

Interesting that you chose Miele appliances, when according to your own post, they will see little use,cept for possibly the fridge and DW and then for only a few months , at best.

I don't think that will add to your resale value enough to make up paying close to double for the Miele appliances.

I think most "Potential buyers" would exclaim, "Me What"????. I never heard of Miele appliances until I saw their DW with the cutlery tray on top----and the reason I bought it----not cause it's name started with an "M".

Most of us folks here on GW, do not represent the "Average
John & Jane" out there,---many (Not on GW),have not even heard of or seen Induction (for example) even appliance ppl, realtors etc etc.

I would suspect you could find other good uses for the money, just get something not so "Esoteric" and expensive, You will still get the same function, same resale value etc etc.

I did check to see that you live in the US, and not in Europe---where "such a Miele Kitchen" might be more "Common" and not near as expensive as Here!

Gary

I just replaced regular size appliances in an in-law kitchen with a 24-inch stove and a 24-inch fridge.

The end result was a much better use of counter space.
The fridge is an "euro" model which is taller, with the freezer on the bottom.
The arrangement works really well and the extra few inches are not missed.

In terms of resale, my realtor advised me against a counter-height fridge. The reason he gave is that, in terms of resale, older people may not wish to stoop so much to get at their items.

Glad to hear no regrets so far...

Chris- this is a tall fridge with freezer bottom also, and we are a family of 5 so will need the height.

Dodge- this is my 4th kitchen/3rd reno and I have seen and used many brands. It is a small kitchen, yes, but I chose to save in other areas of the remodel, we are do-it-yourselfers. P.S. I am you average Jane and have lived in the city, country and in between and am not looking to increase my home's value, just not take away. And I do know from many hours of reading here that Miele appliances have a pretty good rating among posters here. I do not find a good reliable appliance "esoteric" simply because it has a designer label.

The area of my home is an East Coast 50% summer 50% full time community of homes that range between 350k to +++ There is no real average due to the fact that you may be in an 1800sq ft 2 BR next to a massive 7 BR Nantucket Shingle. So any upgrades and custom details make a difference. Sorry if I sounded "curt" but I was heading out the door before. My main concern is the efficiency of the smaller size, but I should add that minimal cooking means to me 3-4 dinners per week for anywhere between 5-15+ people. Mostly grilling. And we are close enough to NY that people will recognize the "euro style" kitchen so not concerned about that.

I think you'll be fine with everything except the dishwasher. With that volume of people, I would think you would be more comfortable with full size.

I have a 27" fridge, 30" oven, 30" cooktop and 24" dw in a 10x14 kitchen in a NYC brownstone and I consider them full size.

I don't think 13x10 is a tiny kitchen. My last kitchen was 12x11 and held a 36" fridge, 24" dishwasher and 30" range (the standard sizes) with plenty of counter and cabinet space. I do not see any problem with the 30" cook top and 27" oven, but you may want a 24" DW and maybe also a 36" fridge (depending on how often you like to shop).

All the other choices can be worked around with menu, cooking method, (grilling outdoors, etc.) and some auxiliary coolers out on the deck or second garage fridge. But I cannot see an 18" dishwasher making you very happy after the first couple 15+ dinners. After a big dinner it could take you three loads to get all the dishes done. Unless you like washing by hand, I'd think that one over. Best of luck with whatever you decide.

Coastal modern,
If you are a family of 5 that will be spending the weekends and summers there, I think you may want the regular sized DW. I am a family of 4 and we run our dishwasher alot!
When we are on vacation, we cook a lot and share meals together as a family and with friends. That means a lot of dishes...
The Miele DWs take about 2 hours to run. If you are using regular dishes rather than throw away paper plates, you will be running through many glasses and dishes for your summer grilling. I think 18 inch DW capacity is tight.

I would consider using Miele Speed oven that doubles as MW and regular oven. This way, you eliminate one of your appliances.

Just my 2 cents. I agree with other stuff.

I am rethinking the DW as we speak. Thanks for the insight. Does the speed oven bake, roast and broil? I haven't really looked into that option. I was planning on a hidden microwave in the cabinet above the wall oven. Just a little one for popcorn and defrosting. But if the speed oven can do all that then I have some more choices to make!

Yep the Miele Speed Oven does bake, roast and broil.
"To Me", that like the Miele DW, The Miele Speed Oven
is probably worth the money.

I do have the Elux Speed Oven but it doesn't broil and I don't need to, but looks like you do, so really, The Miele Speed Oven is your ONLY option here.

Good luck with your build, "Plain Jane" (LOL)

Gary

The Miele speed ovens will serve quite well as a microwave so long as you can live without the popcorn/defrost/dedicated functions available with one button push.

The unit does have a minute plus button that will, with one push, start the microwave, so you can do a coffee reheat, melt butter, etc. But for more complex microwaving, you need to go into the menu structure to select power, duration, etc. But it is an excellent microwave. Instead of turning the food on a turntable, it turns the antenna!

The big charm of the things is that they can convection bake, broil, or microwave, or all of the above, concurrently. There are modes you can dial up that will heat up the oven cavity using the heating elements and then inject some microwaves periodically, greatly speeding up the baking, but with results like the dish was baked in a standard oven. Our speed oven has taken over as the go-to oven in our house for most stuff.

It won't do pizza very well (you need bottom heat for that) but for most dinners where you are serving one baked dish with sides, it rocks.

Here's the deal, though. If you decide on a speed oven you will have to plan for a 220-240V circuit to power it.

To all those who consider a 18" dishwasher, please consider "Dish Drawer" dishwashers. Two independent drawers is SO handy. One larger DW is not.

Well looks like they already prepped for the 70cm oven. Still have some time to think about the DW. In the last 3 years I really only ran the old DW about once a week even with all those gatherings. If I do the full size DW I have to sacrifice on sink size, and right now I have the 33" Kohler Indio cast iron on hold. Really love it and would hate to have to go to a SS 24" D bowl. That's my trade off.