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Bosch or Miele Dishwasher

16 years ago

Hi,

I had originally selected a KitchenAid with a disposal unit, but it's too deep (24-7/8") and with a pannel will stick out from my cabinets. I am trying to decide between two panel ready models:

Bosch Integra 800 SHV68P03UC

or

Miele Diamante Plus G2183 SCVi

Anything that I should know when decing between these two models? Which would you choose and why?

Thanks,

:-)

Comments (9)

  • 16 years ago

    Bosch is made in the USA and has American style racks to accommodate thick dishes and deep bowls.

    It has a half load option.

    Drys platics better.

    It is cheaper.

    Miele is made in Germany of superior components.

    Superior customer service.

    It has a water softner,if like 90% of the population, you have hard water.
    Not a plus if you have a whole house softner.

    Cutlery tray.

    I think as far as noise is concerned it is a "wash" :)

    It is close but for my money I would go for the Miele.

  • 16 years ago

    Hi,

    Thanks very much for your perspective (full of some useful facts). Comments from others welcome.

    Best

  • 16 years ago

    One of the most usefull suggestions here is take some of your dishes & Pots/pans and see how they fit.
    We have the Miele Optima (4 years now) trouble free, quiet clean well, dries pretty good alto ya might hafta ocasionally had dry some plastics.
    I don't see where you are intending to buy these, but Be sure if it is a Miele, that you buy from one of their "Authorized Dealers"--You may of seen the thread here about possible consequences, if you don't buy from "said Dealer"
    Oh I should mention that the reason I bought the Miele was because of its top silverware tray---that usta bug me fishing stuff in/out of those conventional "Cutlery Baskets" So That Alone was the reason I opted for the Miele.
    Good luck!

    Gary

  • 16 years ago

    Thanks for the advice...

    I am fortunate to have a local authorized dealer who carries both Bosch and Miele. There is not a huge difference in price (The Miele is about $200 more expensive than the Bosch).

    I was really surprised to find out that the KA was so deep, particularly since its designed to accept a panel. The disposal feature was attactive to me. Too bad. I like the flatware tray in the Miele as well. I am otfitting the kitchen with 3 other Bosch appliances so I was thinking Bosch as well as the praises from CP.

    So far two for the Miele over the Bosch.

    :-)

  • 16 years ago

    Try a search (at the bottom of the page) not the top(You won't get any "hits" there top).
    Recalling the many posts I read about both Bosch & Miele,
    The Bosch has a much more variable satisfaction record, than does the Miele and some say the newer Bosch's are not built as well as the older ones, and I only recall seeing one negative review on the Miele DW's--It was etching glass and plateware.
    Best thing is try the search and read for yourself.
    You are smart to buy from a local appliance dealer, that is what I did for all my kitchen appliances as well as some bathroom fixtures---that way I know if I have a problem they will stand behind it.
    I only bought one appliance, (Cooktop) from a different store, It took a dump, Nobody, That other store, nor the manufacturer would stand behind it, so it resides in our local refuse center now.

    Gary

  • 16 years ago

    I've had the Miele Diamante Plus G2143SC with the Clean Touch Stainless door for a month now.
    We started with a GE Profile, which lasted about 1.5 years, then had an Electorlux that we only kept for about 6 weeks.
    It was a tough choice between the Miele and Bosch, but we felt the Miele was a better unit.
    In the month we've had it, the Miele unit has been problem free...something we can't say about the GE or Electrolux it replaced.
    At first we weren't sure if we'd like the 3rd rack cutlery tray, but after the 1st day of using it we'd never no back to the old type of silverware baskets.

    I would suggest using the Miele brand rinse aid, as it really makes a difference. It costs about $11 for 550ml bottle, but it would probably last over a year, as we have the unit set to dispense 1ml in each load (the 3ml was the default setting). I was using the Cascade rinse aid that I had left over from the Electrolux, but it gave the Miele unit and the plastic cups a "chemical" smell that I never noticed before. Once I got it out of the system and added the Miele rinse aid, the chemical smell stopped.

    We're still using the Cascade Action Packs dishwasher detergent, which work just fine (no chemical smell with them), but we've tried a few (demo) tabs of the Miele brand dishwasher detergent. They are expensive ($30 for 60 tabs, $0.50 each) but they have a ridge down the center so you can brake them in half. We tried a few like this (split in half), and they worked just fine. I'm not sure if we'll buy the box of the Miele dishwasher tabs and just break them in half for use (which would give 120 half-tab loads at $0.25 each), or buy the Cascade Complete (48 count for $12, $0.25 each).

    Also, get a few hard water tests strips to see what your hard water level is. That way you can properly set up the right amount on the dishwasher. I'm not sure if the water softener makes a difference or not, but everything comes out clean. The box of Miele salt was about $10 and you pour the full amount into the water softener container in the bottom. It should last us about a year since our city water isn't that hard.

    Hope all this helps!

  • 16 years ago

    I have a new Bosch and one of my requirements, when I was
    looking for a dishwasher was the sound factor. The print
    literature on my Bosch says that it is "virtually silent."
    Mine is anything but that. Bosch sent two different service
    guys to my house and they both told me that my machine
    is noisy, but I have to accept it, because Bosch will do
    nothing about, and they won't. I know a lot of owners of
    older Bosch machines rave about how quiet they are, but
    the newer machines are not. Buy the Miehle.

  • 16 years ago

    Not many Bosch Fans around these parts. It sounds like the Miele is the better choice. I will go test my local water to see what the hardness range is. Based on the scale evident in the shower, its not too hard. I will also bring some dishes to the store to see if and how they fit (somewhat thick stoneware).

    :-)

  • 16 years ago

    I own a bottom of the line Bosch dishwasher (~$599 when new) and like it a lot. However, given its occasional repairs (now that it's 8 years old, it's getting noisy and repair-prone) I would never spend $1200 on a new Bosch. I'd spend $150 more on the 'cheap' Miele.