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Final inspection ?

19 years ago

I'm not sure where to pose my question, and to be honest I am not even sure just what I need to ask. Our current home was not built for us, unlike our previous home, but was a builder's spec that needed a few finishing touches at the time we made our offer. The builder and his site supervisor promised the moon and delivered too little/too late. Closing was postponed more than once, but I foolishly allowed myself to be bullied into closing (not only by the builder but by my dh as well) before every last thing was done and checked.

I did hire a home inspector, who detailed a list of corrections. While he was checking out the house, the builder's site supervisor argued nearly every point, insisting that the house had already passed inspection by the city and therefore the HI was wrong about certain things not being done according to code. Unfortunately, even our HI missed some things, which we learned about later. Some of them have finally been corrected, but others have not.

We're about 60 days from the end of our one year warranty, and I'm still wasting time week after week trying to get problems fixed. In an effort to determine the answers to a few questions, I went to the city building inspection office and asked to see the file on the house. The clerk has been unable to locate the house plans and the file is otherwise incomplete.

I was given a copy of the city inspector's report, on which it's noted that the house is not complete due to four pages of out of compliance items. The report was issued about a month before the CO. In a different handwriting are notes about some of those items, but each one is checked off as if the issue has been satisfied.

In scanning the list, I was surprised to see one item about which the site super. had argued repeatedly w/ our HI and with me (weeks after the city inspector's report.) There's no doubt that the site supervisor lied to us. The error was finally corrected, but I don't think it was done before the CO was issued. Another item caught my eye because it's something that I've been fighting the builder about for the past 6 or 7 months. When I mentioned it to the dept. clerk, it was suggested that the builder may have put in a temporary fix that was later removed, but I don't think that's likely. There are other issues that I know were not resolved and some about which I am uncertain, but would sure like to know. I have a bad feeling that the "final inspection" was either a drive-by or was done over the phone.

I do not want to sue anyone, and I really don't want to prolong the hassle of getting these matters resolved. I just want honest assurance that everything meets code and is safe both for us and for whoever buys the house when we retire. The city inspector who wrote the initial report is supposed to get back to me. When he does, I'm wondering about asking him to do a follow-up inspection. If he declines, should I offer to pay the usual fee for an inspection? Ask to speak to his boss? Or do I just start photographing all of the deficiencies and copying all of the faxes that we've sent to the builder about completing the work, in order to file a written complaint with the city? I don't feel that I am thinking too clearly about the situation, and would appreciate your advice on how next to proceed. Finally, if we do need to consult a lawyer, what sort of expertise should we seek?

Thanks for your help.

Comments (8)

  • 19 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I would work with your building dept on this coinciding with what the builder is responsible for concerning any negatives.Unfortunately this might lead to a legal action if the builder claims that aspects of the build were signed off, when in fact they might not have been. Everything should be in your records on file with the building dept as far as those inspections go.There might be a fee from the dept for further inspections but they are usually miniscule charges.

  • 19 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Thanks, Sierraeast. The orig. city inspec. did get back to me and suggested a reinspection with the builder, or his rep., present. He was not happy to hear about items being checked off that were not in fact corrected. I have copies of faxes sent to the builder about those things, and even a few photos, in case someone tries to claim otherwise. However, what I really care about is making sure that all safety issues were really properly resolved. It hasn't helped that smoke alarms have been going off at odd hours for the last couple of days (and we did replace the batteries.) Thinking clearly is tougher when I'm sleep deprived.

  • 19 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I'm not sure where you live but in our area the local city/county inspectors are so busy they typically do not do a thorough analysis/inspection. Usually, if they know the builder/electrician/plumber/HVAC they walk in, do a quick cursory glance, sign off the permit, & leave. If it is a homeowner doing their own work they usually look a little closer but still not enough to guarantee everything is to code.

    Keep in mind that the inspector that did sign off is most likely in a CYA mode as they don't want to be called out for missing things even though as mentioned above they typically don't do a thorough analysis.

    In regard to the smoke alarm they typically look to make sure it is there but that is it. They don't usually take a ladder in to test each one out. The new code requires that if one smoke detector goes off that all the other ones alarm as well which requires an additional wire being ran between them. I believe most electrical inspectors would look for that during the rough-in electrical inspection since it is a relatively new requirement but they don't go around & make sure every stud has a nail stop plate where required or check every receptacle for correct operation/voltage.

    Also, the local jurisdiction/city/county inspections department is not legally liable for things they miss. Now if an inspector is in cahoots w/ a builder there is most likely recourse if it can be proved.

    The builder & whatever trades which are listed on the permit are the ones responsible for the work being done to code & working satisfactory.

    You definitely did right by hiring an inspector.

  • 19 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Best of luck. It would be great if the builder had the same attitude towards safety that you have.Hope it all works out for the best!

  • 19 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I feel for you, I really do. But good for you going to the city inspector and requesting to see their file on your home. Most people wouldn't even think of doing that. Hopefully, you'll get your loose ends tied up to meet the safety concerns you have. I hope it works out in your favor.

    I can tell you from my experience, dealing with a large builders' site super is a joke. Lie, lie, lie. We've built one home and our current home was new but an inventory. Both times we dealt with the supers. They couldn't believe the things we complained about. Like a ceiling that a seam running through the middle and one side was higher than the other. Or the bowed wall. There were many more. One went to far as to walk out of our final walk thru because we refused to sign off.

  • 8 years ago

    It would be helpful to others if you mention just what the disputes are so that others with the same problems could be helped as well instead of the arguments between the powers that be that don't help

  • 8 years ago

    Sorry, didn't look at the date. Would still like to have known what the issues were