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Gaggenau Plumbing

17 years ago

Hello,

We want to buy the Gaggenau steam oven, however, for the gravity drain to work, it requires a 4cm drop from where the water exits the machine to the waste water pipe.

We do not have this clearance to the waste water pipe.

I've been raking my brain to figure out a way to make it work, we are in an apartment building and can't make any changes to any main waste water pipes.

I thought that perhaps we could put a pump in below the sink. That way the waste water from the steam oven could drain into a resevoir, and then the pump would remove the water to the waste water pipe.

Any reason why this wouldn't work?

Would we have enough space to fit it below the sink? The sink is installed in a 24" cabinet, and we are already putting a 3 stage water filtration system under there....

Thanks for your thoughts and opinions!

Comments (10)

  • 17 years ago

    Do you have a diagram of the steam oven position you want & your waste pipe? I'm having a tough time visualizing a solution to your problem.

    The typical install involves running a small hose from the steam oven at countertop height to a waste connection, usually under a sink. The hose length is limited, around 15 feet or 4.6 meters, but for the longest length, countertop height is the minimum to make the gravity drain work.

    Does adding a sink mean you are changing the waste water pipes? I'm not suggesting you add a sink, but it might expand your options. Perhaps you can add a pipe at an angle rather than a hose to carry the drained water away.

    We wanted to put our steam oven in a location too far away from any sink. Our solution probably won't help you, but we were able to run our drain directly down the cabinet & through the floor to a waste pipe below in our basement.

  • 17 years ago

    Gaggenau has a model with a water "tank" - no plumbing necessary. Hope this helps.

  • 17 years ago

    Thank you for your suggestions!!

    dkframes: Unfortunately the model with the water tank is not available in Canada. I begged the retailer and gaggenau, but they don't sell it here because it needs "CSA" approval.

    gizmonike: I don't have a diagram handy... Could do one on Monday, and scan it in at work... The length of the hose is not a problem, and we can't change the location of the waste water pipes due to our apartment buildings regulations. There is a sink there, right next to where we would put the steamer, but we don't have the clearance for the gravity drain.

    We are installing the steamer below countertop, due to we have a very small kitchen, this is the only way it would work. Trust me, we ran the options a billion times. Because we are on the 21st floor, the gravity drain will still work, as long as we have a way to collect waste water which will need to be at least 4inches(10cm) below the bottom of the machine.

    The existing waste water pipe location is exactly parallel with where the bottom of the gaggneau steamer would be. That's why I was thinking of putting in a small tank to collect water, and then use a pump to pump it out.

    We are completely renovating our kitchen, and it is a big empty space right now. We ordered cabinets to fit the 24" Miele steam oven, however I really really want to swap it out for the Gagg because, well you know, the Gagg is waaayyyyy better in terms of functionality.

    *sigh* I wish i could do your basement solution, but i don't think our neighbors in the apartment below us would be too pleased. ;o)

  • 17 years ago

    Just realized i do have a drawing. I posted it in the kitchen gallery forum under title "gaggenau plumbing"

    Here is the link.

    http://photos.gardenweb.com/home/galleries/2008/11/gaggenau_plumbing.html?cat=kitchens

  • 17 years ago

    In principle what you propose will work. A lot of ice machines do exactly the same thing as well as many gas furnaces. They collect water in a tub/pump, and then pump it somewhere else.

    Best to ask your plumber if you have room and the setup will pass code in your area.

  • 17 years ago

    ice machines, interesting. I am going to research into that to see how it works.

    Thanks antss!

  • 17 years ago

    wow! i was just checking out the franklin chef ice maker pumps. That's awesome! Exactly what we need!!!!! And it looks easy to install.

    Previoulsy I was looking at home depot, etc, in the plumbing section and couldn't find anything. These must be in the appliance section.

    THANK YOU!!!!! Web Garden is the best.

  • 17 years ago

    Glad you found a possible solution. FYI - my local (S.F. Bay Area) dealer told me prices for Gaggenau are going up 38%. This is when I asked her where my oven was that has been backordered since August.

  • 17 years ago

    A.) At what height from the floor is the Sanitary Tee (San-T) that connects the kitchen sink to your building's stack?
    B.) At what height from the floor is the Gaggenau appliance drain?
    A. + B.) = Is there an inch difference, ekn2108 ?

    C.) How far is the Gaggenau from your dishwasher ?

    -David

  • 17 years ago

    Wow, your oven has been backordered since August dkframes? That seems excessive. My appliance dealer said it would be 8-12 weeks if coming from Germany, but 12 weeks seemed to be the max.
    I hope prices are not increasing in Canada. The prices here are already high compared to the US. My cost for the gagg is $6250 whereas in the US it is posted at $4699. Perhaps Gagg is just finally adjusting to the us dollar vs euro.

    Davidrol, you raise a good point. An inch is all I need, I'm going to have my cabinet guy confirm the exact height where the gagg drain will be.