Oh no! What a pain!

I haven't noticed any chipping in mine (yet). Last week I baked a frozen pizza right on the rack like the instructions said -- big mistake -- big mess on the bottom of the oven.

I am afraid to run the self-cleaning because of what happened to you. I don't need service calls right before Christmas.

Does the chip go down to bare metal?

Yes, weedmaster, the chip goes down to bare metal. The paint layer is paper-thin so the only alternative is to go to bare metal.

Stir, the oven liner flexes because it is so dreadfully thin. The self clean function MAY cause the problem because it makes the liner warp and flex. But that isn't the only way to chip the paint. I'm trying them all, it seems, by using the oven. I've never had a problem like this. I think it is caused by companies that want to maximize profit. Must be easier to pay for repairs.

Oh, in my first message it should have been that the unit was repaired in early Nov., not nearly Nov. DUH!

I don't like hearing that! Was almost thinking I might be able to swing the slide in around remodel time. Now I don't know if I want to put Nearly $3000 into an oven that chips. That's a LOT of money. I wonder what's happening with Samsung ovens. Who has one?

Ok beachlily -- I am running the selfclean (light-2 hours) to get rid of the pizza mess on the oven floor. I have my fingers crossed that I don't have a problem right before I have to cook Christmas dinner for 20 people.

Will let you know soon how it ended.

Good luck!

Immediately after reading this thread, I ran a damp paper towel over the bottom of the oven. Unfortunately there were pieces of paint. Put them in a small ziplock bag. This is heart-breaking, but cheaper oven linings are the cause.

My oven came out pretty good after a 2 hour self-cleaning cycle (the smell, of course, was horrible).

I do have scratches on the enamel from where the oven racks glide in and out. Hopefully those won't get any worse.

What is your next step beachlily?

It won't get better. However, please keep (if this makes sense) any of the paint that flakes off. Remember, the cleaning doesn't cause the flaking/scratching. Using the oven does. This is insane. Please send me a message through Gardenweb.

I really don't have paint flaking off -- nothing I could pick up. It is just more like scratching were the racks slide.

I just saw a Kenmore freestanding induction at my local Sears outlet. Clearly, the oven had been cleaned, but I didn't see any signs of paint flaking on it. The price is great but not sure good enough to actually get it.

How much were they asking for it?

$1787 but I would try to get them closer to $1500. Deal is good through Wed supposedly.

After I spent two days and nights without power again, I'm rethinking an electric anything.......I'm going to check with my power company and see just how wonderful the all electric rate is. I might go gas. I've stalked and coveted the induction for 2 months. But that might not be the best way for me to go.

Ooh, sorry to hear. We have gas for heat and hot water, but still, the components run on electric.

We had to pass on the range for now. Jan and Feb are DH's slow times at work, and I just had a several hundred dollar bill at the emergency/specialists vets.

Sometime this year, I hope! There will be other good deals out there.

The discussion of using appliances when the power is out is common on the homesteading and prepper message boards. Like the post above me says, many new gas appliances require electrcity to run, so keep that in mind when shopping.

I have the same issue, the longest I was without power was ten days. We ran the generator for a few hours each evening after sunset and we did the cooking then and it also was enough to heat the water for hot showers in the morning (even though they were taken by candle light).

We have an "all electric" house - no natural gas or propane tanks on the poperty. The one thing that saved us was our wood stove. Though it has a blower you don't need to run it for the stove to work (many corn stoves need power to run the feeder). We have several cast iron pans that work just fine on top and DH survived with "ranger coffee" that week. That is the kind you make by dumping grounds in a pot of hot water and pouring that through a stainer.

I also have a cast iron dutch oven and you can put that right inside the stove for some baking type food, but I have not personally done that.

At least when the power goes out in the winter you can put buckets of water outside to freeze, and then rotate them into the freezer as needed to help keep things cold. We emptied the fridge and unplugged it until the power was back on.

I still have not decided on countertops yet. I may end up living with plywood for a year so I can save up for something more expensive than cheap Formica. The cooktop and double wall ovens took everything I saved up over the last year.

Cathy

I have relatives in cold/snow/ice climates that finally went out and bought generators.

Also, pinch-me, I ran the self clean on my 20-year-old Maytag coiltop in the hope that I could see the element was maybe getting burnt out, but that thing was glowing like a setting sun. Sigh. So, clearly the range is not dying anytime soon. Hard to justify a new one when there is nothing wrong with the old one right now.

I'm in hurricane country and may lose electricity for more than a week. I plan for it, but would never deny myself something I want because of "what if." We live with the risks. Thankfully, our grill will cook almost anything so that's what I use when electricity is interrupted. We really miss the ceiling fans, though.

Cathy, what kind of wood stove do you have? you could email me from my page.
Yes, stoves need the ignighter to light but a match will work, too. I'll get a tank of LP if I go that route. My generator isn't big enough to run the heat pump or well pump. No heat. No water. I could use it when I had the LP furnace. I wish I would have stuck with that. It was only 7 years old. Filling the generator every 4 hours in a blizzard isn't fun though. And it's mighty cold first thing in the morning to put coveralls on over everything you wore to bed just to go outside and fill the generator with gas and get it going.

gsciencechick, I know. I'm still on budget but I haven't even started yet. I was just thinking to myself the other day (DON'T do that!) that I hadn't had a vet visit for anyone in quite a while......so I suppose any day now........Almost everyone here is old. I can handle almost any "vet" thing but sometimes I'm over my head and have to go to the office.

Global warming. In the past 3 years we've had ice storms bad enough to take the power lines/poles out. Two years ago it was a week. This time just two days; Christmas Eve and Day. It looks like it's going to become a repeating event so I need to change the way I've been living. If it would be colder, it would have been snow and we wouldn't have had any problem. I can cook in the garage on the grill. I wear my insulated coveralls and everything that goes with them. And it takes FOREVER to cook anything. Warm something up is as much as you can do and it's just as easy to do that on the kitchen counter with a couple of tea lights and an upside down tin can. No power in the summer is a piece of cake. Winter is a whole 'nother story. Yeah, the good news is nothing in the freezer spoils.

beachlily, we were without electricity for 14 days, 11 days, 13 days after Frances, Jeanne, and Wilma. These aren't as good as a ceiling fan, but they sure do help.

Writersblock, I'm in the Daytona area and we got those storms "though the back door". They were cat. 1 at our end, but we still lost electricity for 9 days after Charlie. Oh, DH had his first chemo treatment the day Charlie hit. Stress beyond belief! Anyway, we did OK, but I'll certainly bookmark those fans!

> Oh, DH had his first chemo treatment the day Charlie hit. Stress beyond belief!

I can hardly imagine.

Anyway, you can get them usually during hurricane season at most drugstores, some Publix stores, etc. (Don't plug them in if you want to ever use them with batteries--they get weird on batteries after you do.)

Anyway, I hope you get a good resolution to the oven problem.

Because of a number of construction delays my Kenmore SI induction range, bought when they had that $2100 sale in the Fall, was just delivered.

The news is that they carry a slightly different model number and are now made in Canada (formerly was Mexico) and IIRC the oven interior surface has been changed, I think for the better. So anyone under warranty still with the problem might want to inquire about a new oven liner.

Lenny, my Kenmore was made in Canada and it's model # is 790.4500381. The liner was was installed in Nov. is better than the first, but it's still flaky.

beachlily,

I think you mean model # is 790.45003801.

The current model number, and the one on mine, is model # is 790.45003802.

I cannot say exactly what is different; mine awaits the electrician. What I know at the moment is that the oven door hinge has been changed as the instructions have not been updated and the hinge is different than that shown in the manual (that has not yet been brought up to date).