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Miele induction over miele wall oven

17 years ago

Does anyone have this configuration? I asked his question a while back but I still can't find a definitive answer. Even though I have asked 3 different dealers they know no more than I do. I can look up specs on the website as well as they can and that's all they do when I ask about doing this. You would think we have a roaring economy and they didn't have to work for a living by trying to pin this down. (Ranting here but this is getting frustrating).

I originally spent a lot of time figuring out whether I could do the Monogram over Monogram and that's still my fall back position. But for a variety of reasons---among them getting old and wanting automatic shut off in case my brain does an automatic shutoff instead---I prefer to do the Miele instead. Any experiences or knowledge would be greatly appreciated.

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  • 17 years ago

    You could also use the link below to send an email.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Miele Pre-sale Customer Support Email

  • 17 years ago

    We have just installed the Miele induction unit in a new house. The installation information seems to rule out putting anything like an oven underneath the unit. They insist that there be several inches of clear air space below it to be able to circulate under it. You'd likely void the warranty if you blocked that, especially with an oven. And if you ever had a fire, your insurance carrier might try to get out of covering the loss on the grounds that you did something that the manufacturer warned against. Seems like too much of a risk.

    We put the Miele double ovens on the wall a couple of feet from the induction cooktop. Haven't moved in yet, so I can't tell you how they are performing.

    Good luck!

  • 17 years ago

    I saw on the Fagor web site that they allow their induction cooktop to be installed above their oven.

    In general, if your installation does not A.) insulate between the two and also does not B.) provide for adequate air ventilation under the cooktop, then the generator inside the induction cooktop will get hot, and sometimes very hot. Some people cook all the time, their oven is hot and under the cooktop would be hot too.

    Heat, high heat, is what causes premature death in fine-grained circuitry, like electronics and induction heat devices. Not immediate death but a clear positive correlation exists, over the long term with large numbers. The induction circuitry itself generates some heat inside itself, which can be called waste heat since it is not the heat energy in the pot, it is in the device underneath the vitroceramic panel. This explains why the product needs an air space underneath it. It is to help that waste heat get spread out into the air i.e. leave the device instead of accumulating and reaching ever higher temperatures.

    I doubt any manufacturer would want to express a blanket opinion that one can just plop such a heat-producing device on top of a stove which can also produce a lot of waste heat which MIGHT be trapped inside the same cavity as the induction cooktop.... It would be a problem to start issuing advisory notices on how to separate the two, i.e. how much insulation if any and how to manage the air intake in the air slot...

    So my feeling is that the customer has to understand the various factors and direct his installer accordingly. You want to A.) allow waste heat from the oven to go somewhere other than "Up" so this means (to me) an airtight separator plate between the two, ideally an insulator, and you want B.) to allow for some moving air in that airslot under the induction device. Whether the air slot is X inches or not is less of a big deal than whether air can remove itself and get replenished; this prevents it from getting too hot.

    HTH
    David

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  • 4 months ago

    experiencing equivalent frustration in this same way with this same issue 17 years later.

  • 4 months ago

    A quick check of the Miele spec sheets for the KM 6360, 6365, 6370, and 6375 induction cooktops finds that all four support the installation of the cooktop over an oven.