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Roofing - need expert advice, please

15 years ago

I'd appreciate advice on a roofing situation. Several years ago, we bought a new house. We hired an inspector who has a multitude of certifications in various trades, and he declared the house to be just about perfect. In fact, we've had to spend $$$ on numerous repairs (electrical, plumbing, HVAC, windows, etc.) Due to both the house's size and (we later learned) the methods of the builder, it was under construction for two years, so I'm guessing that the roof is about 5 yrs. old. We replaced a gas fp vent with one designed for high wind areas, patched the roof in several locations (one area about 5' X 15' had no tar paper over the plywood), installed metal mesh over places where squirrels and chipmunks had chewed their way into the attic, etc. Despite all our efforts, we still have a problem with both critters (caught another red squirrel last night) and a small leak when it's windy during storms (which is often.) The shingles look bad, on the south/east sides especially, and a couple of handymen have suggested that we ought to reroof soon (not that I'll hire them.) I want to find someone certified by the roofing material manufacturer who knows how to do a proper installation and won't argue about following the instructions because they've "always" taken some shortcut method.

The circumstances that prompted the house purchase changed greatly, but due to the economy we don't expect to downsize unless dh gets a job offer that includes a relocation package. It looks as if we'll be here a while. Dh is due to receive some deferred compensation in a few months, and we're thinking seriously about using it to reroof the house.

I think there's a good chance we'll need to replace the plywood on about half of the roof, so will want to try to time the job for an extended dry spell. I thought we'd install Grace Ice & Water Shield over the entire roof, but have read that Grace Ultra is better for high temperatures. We're in the south, at an elevation of about 1200 ft., exposed to frequent high winds (gusts > 90 mph), wind driven rains and the occasional tornado. While we do get ice and snow most winters, our greater concern is months of highs in the 90s combined with fierce storms. The roof is steeply pitched and has numerous angles.

We also have a lot of wildlife here. I don't mind the deer (even though they ate all of my roses this year), hedgehogs, foxes, and coyotes, but I detest the tree rats (squirrels) and chipmunks that persist in coming into my attic. In addition to using the Grace Ultra over the entire roof, what should we do to protect areas such as roof penetrations for vents & chimneys as well as the edges where critters may continue trying to get into the attic? Is there a steel screen product that can be attached over the Grace Ultra and maybe wrapped around the perimeter of the entire roof?

Also, please make suggestions about roofing materials. I thought we'd just go with standard architectural shingles, but have read about CertainTeed's Landmark Solaris that looks like it combines (limited) solar reflective properties with reasonable wind resistance. Does anyone have experience with that product, or with something similar?

If we could get ARC okay, would it make sense to look into metal roofing? Dh likes the idea, but is concerned about the roof quickly looking pock marked after storms. Are metal shingles better for high wind areas? Or is there another option to consider?

Sorry for the length, but I want to try to get this right. I'm guessing that the job will entail over 80 squares, so it's a significant expense. My 9 yr. old minivan may have to last another year or two, but the peace of mind of a leak-and-pest free attic would be worth it.

Comments (4)

  • 15 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Grace Ultra is butyl based instead of modified asphalt so it can withstand greater heat but I'm not sure your location justifies it. Check the cost and get Grace's opinion.

    A good barrier to rodents is galvanized sheet steel so you might consider applying it under the siding and trim in the most vulnerable places. I'm curious if they will attack cellular PVC or composite materials.

    Too bad you couldn't get the Solaris shingles installed before the end of the year for the tax credit.

  • 15 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Thanks, Macv. I left a message w/ a Grace rep to get more info about Ultra vs. Ice & Water. Have also left a mssg. w/ a CertainTeed certified installer to ask about the shingles. I'll ask the roofer about galv. steel for the edges.

    In a previous home, along a FL river, we had a horrible problem with squirrels. They chewed through everything my dh put up - metal screens, plastic, treated wood - it seemed as if nothing would stop them. The raccoons were nearly as bad. We've been trying a multi-step approach this time, inside and outside. If I get any more sleep deprived, dh may find me in the attic with my Glock. (j/k)

  • 15 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Well, regarding the tree-rats if you are willing to experiment: Buy a couple bottles of original formula Pine-Sol and a package of small shallow disposable bowls. Take them into the attic and place a bowl filled with undiluted PineSol so that the bowl itself cannot be reached by children or pets (in a secured cardboard box is usually okay) every 20 feet along the perimeter and near any vents. Check every couple weeks and refill as needed. I make no promises but this has worked well for me and for several acquaintances, used in tool sheds as well as in garages, attics and crawlspaces. I'm guessing that the aroma is a deterrent, but in the past 30+ years the only times I've been invaded by critters is when I've forgotten to refill.

    BTW, if you have heat ducts nearby and any have a pinhole leak, the smell WILL transmit through you house! Just open windows to air it out - after you find and fix the leak.

  • 15 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    PineSol is a new one to me - thanks. I've heard that squirrels and chipmunks don't like the smell of peppermint, and recently someone said they'll avoid areas treated with wasp spray (which would be great if true, since we also have a wasp problem.)

    The Grace rep. was very helpful and said that Ultra would be overkill here, just as Macv indicated. He did ask if we have spray foam insulation beneath the roof deck, and said if so we may want to consider the high temp. version of Ice & Water Shield. He didn't use Ice & Water Shield over his entire roof, but our house is subjected to such strong wind-driven rain that we think it's worth the extra expense.

    Any suggestions on roofing material? I've been reading the Owens-Corning class action lawsuit posts and am not inclined to go with their products. Dh still likes the idea of a metal roof, but not if it may cost 2X+.