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16 years ago

Hello all,

Just moving into a house and wanted to see if the HVAC quote I was getting was in the right ballpark. I am getting a Trane XL16i heat pump (2 ton, non-communicating) with a HP80 oil burner, 5/2 Thermostat, new copper lines (about 30-40 ft worth), little bit of duct work, and a new flue (10 feet tall). What should I be paying for that work? Also, is the XL16i that much better than the XL15i? Numbers seem to be pretty close and I wonder what the price difference is?

Thanks!

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ryanhughes
16 years ago
I'm not a fan of the XL16i. It is more expensive than the XL15i because its a 2 stage unit, but the 2 stage isn't all that impressive in the XL16i line (tending to be 80% of full capacity, so no huge advantage). The XL15i is a great heat pump all around, and if you look at the efficiency ratings the XL15i is roughly the same if not better in some numbers. I would pick the XL15i personally, and possibly get a thermostat that can control humidity if that is a concern.
tigerdunes
16 years ago
ducatimic

what is your location?

unless you have deep pockets, I would chuck the idea of an oil furnace.

I would not recommend the XL16i heat pump. obviously, this area you are heating/cooling is relatively small.

what is your electric rate?

IMO
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ducatimic
Original Author
16 years ago
I am in D.C. area.. I will be running dual heat... with heat pump above 35 degrees or so... then oil kicking in below that. After a lot of feedback, I think I will try the XL15i instead. Seems to be just about the same with better heat pump numbers. The sq ft is only about 1600, so nothing too big. Will be using the 2-ton 15i heat pump and the XP80 oil furnace.
david_cary
16 years ago
A change over of 35 degrees seems high with oil heat but maybe your electric is high. Or maybe you need the really warm air. In my neck of the woods, 25 degrees would probably be better if anyone still used oil...
tigerdunes
16 years ago
ducatimic

First of all, I think you should take a deep breath and do more research.

On forced air systems, most people would agree that excellent equipment, a properly sized/designed ductwork system, and good dealer install are the key components to any new HVAC system.

But first off, make certain you are sized correctly and the system you are considering is a matched system.

I am not certain you are sized correctly both condenser and furnace. I looked at the Trane website and the listed furnaces were large BTU models. What size have you been quoted? If I am not mistaken, Thermopride makes the Trane XP80 furnace. Perhaps other forum members can confirm. Thermopride makes good oil furnaces. The mdl you were quoted comes with a conventional blower(not var speed). This means you will never reach the potential capability in performance/eff numbers on the XL15i HP condenser.

I really would not have an oil furnace because I truly expect fuel oil to reach and surpass the record prices not so many years ago. Oil simply scares me as far as operating costs go.

You need to be sized correctly regardless and start asking yourself and dealer some hard questions.

IMO