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commentary welcome on kitchen plan

14 years ago

Hello all,

I'm in the planning and budgeting stage of our kitchen reno.

Please have a look at this kitchen/dining room layout and provide commentary. This is already about version 11 so further adjustment is welcome.

The house is a 1924 bungalow with most of its original features intact. The existing kitchen layout is part original, part '50 'improvement' so we are looking to get a better flow, integrate into the dining room and provide a better environment for hosting our extended family and friends.

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Further files can be found under the Carter House Renovations collection in Google sketchup 3D warehouse.

Thank you for your input,

Tom

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Comments (9)

  • 14 years ago

    Your sink and stove are way too close. That's where all of the action in the space happens, and if you have them on the same run, you want at least 48" between the two. The fridge should always be on the perimeter of the kitchen, as it's often the destination of those looking for a drink or a snack from outside the kitchen. Placing it on the perimeter keeps those folks out of your hair. A range often looks great flanked by two taller objects, so I placed the fridge and the pantry to either side on the back wall. The space isn't made any better by the addition of the peninsula, it's just made harder to access. It works best as a galley. The bay window is ideal for seating, but not with an oblong table. A round table perfectly suits it. One with leaves to expand allows you to seat up to 10. The secondary sink added nothing in it's location. Placing it to the right with coffee making stuff and barware gives it a dedicated purpose and using glass cabinets above displays your coffee mugs and wine glasses. I can't tell where the windows are on the sink wall, so I left the sink in the same location you had it, and having it off center gives you the big long stretch of counter between it and the banquette as a prep area. Again, I can't tell where the window(s) are, so I just placed wall cabinets above. They may or may not work for you.

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  • 14 years ago

    ditto, except : put a sink on the same counter as your cooking surface, not so far away.

  • 14 years ago

    great ideas...I had not thought to colonize the dining room so completely. The large bay window would be tough to put seating around as the area is almost all window, to quite low down. The table is more illustrative as we have not purchased that yet so a rounded expanding table does make sense for that space.
    Also, anything wrong with swapping sink and stove so that the sightlines entering the area are not dominated by a pile of dishes?
    tc

  • 14 years ago

    I would want the sink in front of the window personally, and if you look at most kitchen designs, most people would as well. There are code issues with a range in front of a window. If you have issues with dishes piling up while you are working, then a deep sink and maybe plan for 2 DW's. I've done several kitchens with that feature. Try to load as you go., Modern DW's don't need you to rinse, so as soon as you're done with a measuring cup or mixing bowl, in it goes. With two, you can have your prep stuff in and running while the other is reserved for your actual plates and glasses. No accumulation! And you will still use less water and electricity than you would if you handwashed everything.

    Chair height is only 16-18" from the floor, so unless your windows come down that low, a banquette wouldn't be a problem. If they are that low, then just a round table and chairs will work fine.

  • 14 years ago

    tomcarter - You seem to have a wall oven between the sink and the range - am I reading that correctly? and that doesn't make sense and then in greend plan I no longer see it. just observations.

  • 14 years ago

    Sinks should not be in sight lines.

    Put beautiful countertop under windows.
    Sinks should not be under windows. Yuk.

  • 14 years ago

    Swapping sink and range would have the benefit of putting your range on an outside wall for easy ventilation. Also, don't give up on range under the window just yet. Green refers to "code issues" but in many places there are no proscriptions against doing exactly that.

  • 14 years ago

    And here is a thread about the subject of range-under-window:

    Here is a link that might be useful: ranges/cooktops under windows

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