Look at the heat pump. Trane units are notoriously low on putting out heat. Not good! Most put out about 1/2 ton lower than you'd think. An 036 would put out around 30,000 BTU at the 47° rating point. Also watch SEER and HSPF. Often light.

Now at Maytag, most sizes of the DT4BD series will get 15 SEER and the other criteria for the federal tax credit when used with the CE series coil and variable speed blower. The 3 ton unit puts out 8,000 BTUs more heat than Trane meaning lower balance point and warmer air. If the compressor fails in 12 years, you get a whole new heat pump. Not from Trane! We've been selling Tappan heat pumps, next notch down from Maytag but the same mechanically. They do fine and are QUIET.

16 SEER heat pumps use a dual-stage compressor. Do you need a dual-stage unit?

Post model numbers of the condenser and coil and I'll compare SEER/EER plus btu ratings.

I don't have the model numbers for the Maytag units but the Trane quotes I have are for the XR13/XV80 heat pump/furnace combination. My house isn't huge (2.5 tons is the size we are looking at) so I doubt we need the dual stage compressor. We do want the variable speed blower though. It's good to hear that people have a good opinion of the Maytag equipment. I really like the idea of a 12 year warranty.

Bryan

The Trane XR13 condenser has a model# that starts with "2TWR". I would want the model numbers of the condenser, coil, and furnace in writing to avoid any "bait-n-switch" and so you can find out performance data if you so desire.

Good luck.

Need suggestions from anyone on replacing a 10 yr old Goodman and 24yr old Bryant furnace. Ed

Stick with the Trane,top notch equipment that all other brands try to compare with.

The Nordyne equipment, such as Maytag and Westinghouse, are superior to Trane and Carrier, York as well. There is/are no comparisons.... Nordyne "snuk up" on 'ole Carrier and Trane and now has them beat... hands down--beat.

Trane has fewer leaks,virtually none to be more precise and a very low failure ratio compared to every other brand out there.Their controls are lacking compared to the Carrier infinity series but are running a close second and inproving all the time.The quality in which most other manufactures use is inferior to Trane.I can twist the top of the maytag and westinghouse units with my bare hands to show you the quality in which they are made.Try it yourself,walk up and shake both and you will see the build quality difference.Maybe the screws wont fall out.You cant do that with the Trane units.By the way York went down hill years ago.Manufacturers are coming up with crazy warrantys to get more market.That does not change the quality of the system.You can scream Trane has low heating BTU output on matched heatpump models.Match the correct capacity with the given system and thats not a problem I have ever run into.The heating is usually overated with the matched cooling capcity in most all southern areas.If your in a northern area you should be installing a dual fuel and still not a problem with heat capacity.I guess you push what you sale and down the rest.I will stick with Trane, its reputation and PROVEN quality is serving my customers very well.There are so many brands available now.I would hate to be an uneducated customer looking for a new system.

Where does this information on Trane come from. Consumer reports? Everyone knows that system is flawed. We sell Maytag and it is very comparable with any quality system out there. Remember that the installation is the most important part of the system. You can't beat those warranties with Maytag. As stated they are very quiet.

The reason for a 2 stage compressor is comfort. With mild temperatures only the first stage would run. This will give you longer run times and better humidity control. They work great.

"Stick with the Trane,top notch equipment that all other brands try to compare with."

I know! The others are trying to figure out how to lower their efficiency and capacities to keep up with Trane

The OP is looking at a 2TWR3030 and likely 2TXCB031 coil. Cooling capacity? 27,800 or 2 1/4 ton. Heating capacity at high rating point? 25,400 or just over 2 ton. Heating capacity at 14,200 BTU.

Or he could get a Maytag DT5BD030 with matching coil. Cooling capacity? 29,000. Heating at 47? 28,600. Heating at 17? 17,700 or 23% more than the fantastic Trane. Personally I like warmer air coming out of my vents!

The Maytag has an American made scroll, the Trane has a Mexican made recip. The Maytag has a swept wing fan blade and will be quieter than the Trane. Maytag has a 12 year parts warranty, 12 year quality pledge which replaces the entire unit if the compressor fails plus pays $250 toward the labor. And Trane?

He's gonna need that 12 year warranty.Trane makes some of the quitest systems on the market when you get above their xb13 which is the base model.The XLi product are extremely quit.You can match many different indoor and outdoor models to acheive the desired btu,s the structure requires, most experienced HVAC professionals can do this.I agree that installation if greatly important in equipment life.See if that American made scroll can pump mud and metal shavings like the Mexican assembled Trane recip can,which is the same tuff Trane compressor used for years.They do use scrolls in most the other seers.All being equal Trane is still unsurpassed in longivity,quality and reliabilty.NEXT

I have to admit a certain bias toward Trane/AmStd especially in the area of reliability with their HPs and gas furnaces. But I have learned on this forum that one has to tred carefully when contradicting BaldLoonie. He is about the straightest HVAC pro with a minimum of prejudice. BaldLoonie has been spreading the word about Trane/AS condensers both heat pumps and AC are light in their BTU output. The shortage varies based on the system configuration one chooses. Trane should hang their head in shame and embarassment. If you pay for something described as a three ton, then by gosh you should get a three ton. It's that simple. If you don't get what you paid for, then I would call that somewhat deceitful. And another area Trane fails is their controls. For a premium system with a matching price, Trane's controls are a POJ and are better suited for the Leno show. And finally, Trane is losing in the area of cutting edge technology-ie the Nordyne line of true var speed condensers. Of course, I believe Trane offered something similar in the late 80s but was a product ahead of its time that never caught on probably due to pricing. Perhaps we will see some positive changes with the new Trane Company.

IMO

Tigerdunes ,I respect your comments always.I agree baldloonie is a professional I have dissagreed with him before but I try not to dissrespect him.I am not new to this forum just changed my name.You should know who I am and I always defend Trane.The industry has changed greatly since I started 23 years ago and I have learned to change with it.You can not size a system by tons any longer.A system must be sized by total capacity.You can not compare one brand system to the other based on tons.You should size a system according to the customers load calculation.I have found the new units have lower capacity ratings mainly due to higher seer ratings and thats with every brand.I have been installing and selling Trane for many years and know first hand how reliable they are.I spent many years in the field every day before and after I owned my own company(13yrs).I have at one time or another installed most other brands.I have tried second lines with ,rheem,tappen,goodman,bryant and some armstrong.We had various problems with all of them.I decided to strickly sale the brand that gave us fewer problems.We sale hundreds of Trane every year with a extremely low call back ratio on equipment.That alone speaks volumes for Trane.I dont agree that Tranes controls are junk,they are above most other brands and below some.They will improve as needed as well as others.Baldloonie a year ago was raving about how good Rheem and Tappen are and now its Maytag.Next yaer who knows.Trane continues on.

Tappan & Maytag are the same thing, Maytag has a stainless steel cabinet, Tappan is painted white. And yes, Rheem is still my favorite! The jury is still out on Nordyne but so far experiences have been good as is the warranty & support.

I just think for all the ranting about how good Trane is, some of their efficiency & capacity issues should be known. Salesman sold an Allegiance 14 this summer with variable speed furnace. No matter what we did with A-S/Trane coil, could not get 14. That's hard to explain to the HO why he can't get the utility rebate. But he wanted A-S/Trane more.

Customer thinks he's getting a great HP system when his "036" heat pump puts out 31,000 BTU where we can get him as much as 39,000 BTU from a Rheem. Wanna bet the air coming from the Rheem is a lot warmer on a cold day? This is with A coil, A-S/Trane does better with air handlers.

Personally I think they are all junk now, some more than others. I have a smash & dent XV80 in my house I haven't touched in 15 years except pull a bird from the inducer. I admit it fires about 50 hours a winter with the heat pump but the blower is on most of the time and I keep the place ice cold all summer. Working for an A-S dealer since 1992, we went from flawless to problematic. When the beloved orange compressor went to Mexico, I had a line of them waiting for warranty credit. The Intellignition boards were a nightmare. There was cheering on another board when someone announced the BLW0732 was history! Will its replacement be better? The MOT8895 in the TTB/7B were as well. We've changed more IGN0117 under warranty than we ever did 0054s. Lately it has been TXVs in the outdoor units but not that many more than other brands. Sorry, we find A-S/Trane nothing special anymore.

So key is find the best possible dealer who does it right. And buy an extended warranty. I don't care what brand it is, in 10 years you will have used it.

They say its not rocket science but sometimes I feel its getting pretty close.lol,I have the very same furnace in my house going on 12 years and have never touched it other than maintenance.