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18 years ago

I have been dealing with round light gray to brown spots in my pool for about 2 weeks now. They began to appear just a few. One very dark one on one end of my pool. We tried brushing them off with no luck. I used sand paper that I use for my calcium, and it took the calcium off, but the one spot got darker. I then headed off the Leslies and they told me to do a vitamin C test, which I did with no luck, so Leslie's told me this would show that it wasn't metal. I then posted on troublefree pool, posted the same picture below and was told that it didn't look like algae, but it could be. I headed back to Leslie's who told me to shock the pool, add chlorine to bring up my levels for 24 hours and then they had me add "black algaecide" to the water. My pool builder told me to do the same thing. I have been brushing 4-5 times per day with my wire pool brush and have even brushed quite a bit of calcium off, but my spots have not changed. Actually, we are getting more. They are mostly on the botton with only about 3 or 4 on the walls of my pool. They look gray when they are new and a medium brownish red when they get more prominent. My hubby is calling the pool builder today, because we are extremely concerned and he wants him to come out here personally and look at this. It's been a week since we put the algaecide and Leslie's tells me that I should have noticed a huge difference by now. Is the Ascorbic acid test iron clad?? Could it still be metals??? Could it be a problem with our Pebble Fina finish???

I have always been on top of my chemicals. I check every day and the only thing I need to add is Acid, phosfree maintenance and Jack's Magic Purple Stuff(sequestering agent). I know that my CYA is 40 right now, but Leslie's tells me not to add anything until my problem is diagnosed and taken care of. Any help would be appreciated.

This is my darkest spot. It has gotten darker and turned brown with a hint of orange. It has not gotten bigger, just darker.

Comments (17)

  • 18 years ago

    I have some brown spots that have turned out to be the flagstone chipping off and landing in the pool. If these chips stay on the pool surface for more than 4-5 days, they leave a brown spot for some reason. I poured Muriatic acid on one and let it sit for about 2 minutes and it made it go away. I poured muriatic acid on another but not long enough and it turned grey but did not completely go away. You need to find out what it is. Bird poop, things falling off the trees, etc. What is it? What color is your coping?

  • 18 years ago

    Have you fertilized your yard lately? If fertilizer gets in the pool and the pump is off, it can sit on the bottom and cause spotting.

  • 18 years ago

    I have regular concrete coping and plain blue tile. We haven't fertilized at all, but we have had high winds off and on. I've had bark that has sat on my pool for a few hours.

  • 18 years ago

    Ok, so you suspect it may be bark? Is there anything?

  • 18 years ago

    I don't know??? I'm just guessing, but I really don't think so.
    They start out light gray and just get darker until they are a brown color.
    They can't be scrubbed off, Algaecide doesn't work and Ascorbic Acid doesn't work. I'm stumped. My pb is sending the Pebble Tec Installation company out next week to look at it. The Pebble Tec guy called me this morning. He is very curious. He says he has no clue, but might know once he sees it.

  • 18 years ago

    Well it looks like its darker blue around that dot/stain in the picture...isn't it?

  • 18 years ago

    I really don't think it's algae or you would have been able to brush it off with the wire brush. It might pop back up again, but you would at least be able to remove it temporarily. I wonder if it's a contaminant that got inside the PT as it was being applied and is now staining it from the inside out. It's really odd, it sounds like you've done all the right things to get rid of it!

  • 18 years ago

    I think I've done all I can. The Installer hopefully will know more. Adam's Pool Solutions in San Jose did it and they have a really good reputation. Hopefully he can diagnose it and fix it. My pool builder seems to think Adams will take care of it.

  • 18 years ago

    Barco,

    Yes, it is darker blue around it. I had applied a sock with vitamin C around that spot and another. After about 2 hours, I lifted the sock and the calcium around the spot was gone, which just made the spot look darker. I have a lot of calcium on my pool. When Adam's called me this morning to schedule an appointment, he asked me to put acid in my pool to lower the PH below 7.0, and then tonight and tomorrow, brush the calcium off. He tells me that the PH will come back up, but lowering it will loosen the calcium off of the walls and floor and get it off before he comes out and he can get a better look at what's underneath the calcium.

  • 18 years ago

    Hi there - I was just checking to see if you found out what the spots where on your pool? I hope you found out what the problem was. Have a good day!

  • 18 years ago

    Hi there - I was just checking to see if you found out what the spots where on your pool? I hope you found out what the problem was. Have a good day!

  • 18 years ago

    No, I haven't yet, but I think they must be some kind of mineral depositing and staining my pebble fina. I've been using Jack's Magic Purple Stuff, but obviously something isn't working right. The Plaster Company owner is coming out this Tuesday to take a look at it. My husband was sanding calcium off of the pool this weekend and took a closer look at the largest and darkest spot. It is not fuzzy and doesn't brush or sand off. It's an actual stain in the plaster. You can see the Pebble Fina design through the stain. At this point I have about 30 of them in my pool, but not in my spa which is attached, but higher with a waterfall. I'm not sure how they are going to approach this, but all I want is it fixed a this point. I will post again when I know what they are going to do.

  • 18 years ago

    Problem Solved!!! Hallelujah!!! I didn't do anything wrong!!!
    The plaster company just left. Turns out that Pebble Tec is aware of this problem. I have a "south african worm". It's an organic worm that got into the Pebble Tec solution. It grows like a shell into the Pebble Tec Mixture. Over time as the Pebble Tec cures completely, it starts coming through and is visible, but it was there the whole time. Pebble Tec is really good. They are going to pay for everything. I chose to have my pool surface chipped out and re-done in October. It is safe to swim in, so we can still enjoy our pool this summer and then in October it will all be fixed. He says Pebble Tech has spent over a million dollars re-doing pools that got the bad batch across the country. Ours is the first one he's come across in his area.

  • 18 years ago

    Wow!! No wonder you couldn't figure out what was wrong! That is really crazy, I've never heard a story like that. Glad your mystery is finally solved!

  • 18 years ago

    I just had Pebble Tec's black pearl installed and it's stunning. Makes me wonder however if such spotting could be seen on my surface. I'll keep an eye out on wind free days.

  • 18 years ago

    Mine didn't show up right away. I've had my pool in for almost 4 months now. I started seeing these spots about 3 weeks ago. My Plaster company says that it was in a bad batch of mix from South Africa and that it's in there from the beginning and grows through the curing process which is why it can take a couple of months after installation before you start noticing them. I have the Bella Blue Pebble Fina so it's a bright color and it wasn't hard to see the dark gray spots coming up. They now look even darker and look almost orange/brown. I wonder if it's just the Fina mix that was bad. I don't remember what he said about that. I'm just so relieved that I know what it is now. My Pool Builder is going to re-do my start up for me once they re-plaster. He is going to put all of the chemicals in and maintain it again for the first 30 days to make sure it cures right(they did this the first time too), and he will put the salt in again for us. I am very happy that my plaster company, Pebble Tec and my Pool Builder has made this turn out okay for us and have gone out of their way to fix it and guarantee quality.

  • 18 years ago

    On a somewhat related note, you indicated that you are sanding calcium off your pool - I too have what appears to be calcium growing on the pool surface and have been brushing them off for virtually the whole summer. Do you know what it causing yours?

    Also - how much purple stuff do you put in your pool? Does it help with the calcium?
    Thanks.