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Am I in over my head? Newbie post

18 years ago

Hello all,

I love all the great advice on other gardenweb forums, and thought I'd tap into this one. I'm a room mom at my child's Catholic school and am responsible for a class project that is to be sold at the school's fundraising auction. I'd love to do a great project that will raise a lot of money. When looking for ideas, I stumbled upon the Mary mosaic pictured below and fell in love with it. I know something like this would be very popular.

Am I crazy to attempt it? I'm not very creative, but have an artist friend who could draw it out for us. I consulted with the woman who runs a local glass studio and she seemed to think it would be no big deal. As it's a class project, the kids (12 years old) would have to do some of the work, but not all. My thinking was to do all the glass cutting and artwork in advance, and just have the kids glue and place the tiles, then I would grout it later. I'm thinking we'd use weather-treated plywood as the base surface. Is this an appropriate surface, or is there something better? I know I'd need to prepare it for hanging before we mosaic. As for size, I'm thinking approximately poster-sized. I'm worried about the weight for hanging. Am I on the right track? Does anyone have any resources for similar religious art, but perhaps simpler? Can I buy pre-cut tile squares online to reduce the amount of cutting necessary? Can I possibly get it done by February? Any other suggestions for a simpler project, if this is too much? All ideas welcome!

Many thanks in advance.

- Andrea

Here is a link that might be useful: Mary Mosaic

Comments (15)

  • 18 years ago

    Mary, price wise you'll do much better cutting your own and it really won't be that labor intense to cut. The plywood will be fine as long as it's meant for indoors only. If that's true then the kids can use a safe glue like Weldbond... absolutely possible to do before Feb and I love that you are taking this on.

    Lots of us here have done projects for fundraisers with great success. Stick around and everyone here will help with any questions you have.

  • 18 years ago

    You should be able to get that done by Feb. with lots of hands, hopefully your glass order doesn't take weeks. Mine sometimes do. Get the order in right away if you decide to go that route. Is it for inside? if so...Welbond for the kiddo's for sure. If not you may want to use concrete board
    and mortor. The kids will love doing this....and you will too!

    Hazie

  • 18 years ago

    If you want some more ideas, see Kathy's website:
    http://www.thadenmosaics.com/

  • 18 years ago

    I don't see any problems with this project. It'll be fun!

  • 18 years ago

    Andrea, I was asked to help 2 cousins with one of their 5th graders class make mosaics for their class fund raiser last year. We did 3 projects with the kids. Each one of us had about 5 kids in our group. TOO MANY! We only had one afternoon - NOT ENOUGH TIME!

    Here is what I would suggest:
    -You need very clear instructions AND good listening students
    -Only one or two students work at a time
    -YOu will need to include instructions on spacing, following the pattern, glue use, etc.
    - Personally, I would start with a very simple pattern such as a cross but that is your decision.
    - You could give each child a small wooden item to make their own for a practice. This would be relatively cheap and would really help with instructions and guidance.
    -One thing I found is that they wanted to do their own thing rather than follow our predetermined pattern and colors.

    I think you could use the very small (3/8" square) vitreous glass tiles easily. I personally prefer www.mosaicartsupply.com. He will match prices and is very dependable.

    Keep us posted on your progress.

  • 18 years ago

    why did I call you Mary? I'm sorry - ANDREA! Welcome to the forum, we're here to help.

    One other issue is that the glass should be tumbled to smooth away the sharp edges... that will make it safer for the kids to handle and insure your finished project has no sharps after grouting too. It can be done just rolling the tiles around in a sealed coffee can with a bit of water. Or if you kjnow someone with a rock polishing set up, they could run everything through for ya.

  • 18 years ago

    Oh yeah, the 3/8th vitreous would be perfect, save on cutting, no tumbling... great idea Debbi!

  • 18 years ago

    Oooooooo, I like the image on the website, CRACKED, on "The Artist". It's similar and doesn't look so complicated for the kids. Wonderful project, and YES, you can DO this. I agree w/NT on cutting glass yourself to save money, but here's another site for the least expensive vitreous tiles I've found. HAZIE is right on the substrate - if for inside, sealed 3/4" plywood and Weldbond. Plywood does warp, so I recommend the hardibacker and mortar for permanence and can be used outside as well as inside.
    full sheets of tiles for less

  • 18 years ago

    yeah but that's the bigger ones and they'd need to do more cutting (Andrea, to cut glass tiles it takes wheeled nuppers, not tile nippers just in case you didn't know) I like Debbis idea of the 3/8th - easier to stay in the pattern and get a tighter cleaner look

    Here is a link that might be useful: mosaicartsupply

  • 18 years ago

    nuppers??? did I really write nuppers? OMG LOL "nippers" DOH!

  • 18 years ago

    Thanks all, for the welcome and the wonderful suggestions. I'll check out the site mentioned to find the 3/8" tile. Due to the time constraints, I don't want to cut the tiles myself. If they're precut, do they still need to be tumbled? I was thinking that my adult helpers and I would do all the outlining of each section and start any patterns so that the kids could just follow along and each section would be clearly defined for them.

    Does anyone have any suggestions for a simpler pattern along the same lines, or recommended reading for me?

    Thanks so much. I'm getting excited about doing this project after reading the forum postings and seeing all the beautiful work that's out there!

  • 18 years ago

    Momof3, the 3/8" tiles do not need to be tumbled. I think they would work well for you. I might suggest you and your assistants purchase a few, and practice laying them out so you can see how to work with spacing, etc.

    I suggest you check out your library for mosaic books - Martin Cheek, Sonia King, and there are many other authors. You will learn techniques and get loads of ideas.

    For a simpler pattern, you might look at coloring books. Look at the ones with large patterns. Also, you could simplify your image, by using one color on the gown (blue), one color on the sleeves (white), background all one color (turquoise), etc. Omit the text or have the adults do that.

  • 18 years ago

    Just checked out Kathy Thaden's site...beautiful! Thanks d3bbi, for the suggestions to simplify. I'll look at the library and in coloring books. I would like this to be appropriate for outdoors as well, so slowmedown, is hardiboard the same as cement board? Any recommendations on mortar? Does it come in different colors like grout? I'm guessing this thing is going to be HEAVY, what kind of hanging hardware do you all recommend? I'm getting very excited about this project, but also NERVOUS. Thanks all for the encouragement!
    - Andrea

  • 18 years ago

    Maria (Shrty411) recently told me about Glass Eye 2000. It's a free software download for 30 days and you get to keep the patterns when your 30 days are up. There are several religious patterns that may work for this project. It's also great because you can resize the pattern as big or small as you like and then print it out (using several sheets of paper)and tape it together for a full size pattern.

    Barb

    Here is a link that might be useful: Glass Eye 2000

  • 18 years ago

    Yes, cement board, hardibacker, backerboard - cement-based and is good for outside. Use a thinset mortar - I use Mapei Ultra Flex 2. Comes in grey or white. You can use colorants to color it cuz I use if for the grout also.

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