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A few things I would change

16 years ago

Weve been living in the house for 2 months now. I absolutely love it and almost everything is perfect due to extensive research on GW before I did anything.

There are a few things I would change but they are not majorly important. I thought IÂd share for those of you still in the planning stages.

1. First and foremost, I would hire a different electrician. He WAS a friend and had done very good repair work for us in our other house and for my parents. The difference that I didnÂt know or realize came when he made a statement about ¾ of the way through the VERY bad job he did. He said he wasnÂt doing anymore new houses because it didnÂt pay enough and took too long. He could make more money finding problems, a quick in and out. When we get the money, we have to hire another electrician to fix his many screw ups and flat out refusals to do what we wanted.

2. Absolutely, positively insist that things be done the way you want them, not the way the installer thinks it should be.

3. Have the potfiller hooked to hot water, not cold. I was afraid to ask the plumber to change it because it would have cost more money.

4. If you want a shower head, handheld and a rain shower overhead, insist that it be done. The plumber said it wouldnÂt work because we wouldnÂt have enough water pressure to run all 3 at the same time. He put them all in but on the walls so the rain shower is virtually useless. We have run all 3 with no problems at all. He just didnÂt want to get in the very small attic space.

5. Insist that they put electrical outlets and hose bibs outside where you want them. Again, I was afraid to insist that they put more because the price would have gone up.

6. DonÂt assume that your cabinet builder knows the size cabinet needed. We talked about 1Â wide spice racks on each side of the range. When the cabinets were built and installed, the doors on the spice racks are 6" wide. A box of salt will not fit on the inside. They are great for small spice bottles but I use large ones. I had a pantry cabinet built and wired for appliances. I told him I would have a blender, mixer, coffee pot, etc. in there and wanted to use them in the pantry cabinet. When he installed the pull out drawers, they were too close together to fit the taller appliances so I had to remove one of the drawers and put all the taller appliances on the top shelf. He also didnÂt make the pantry cabinets deep enough to totally enclose the refrigerator. He did an awesome job building the cabinets to my exact specifications as far as looks go and how I wanted them situated and I am totally pleased with them. I guess I didnÂt explain myself well enough on these features.

My main point that IÂm trying to make is be positively certain that each and every subcontractor working on your house knows EXACTLY what you want. Put every detail in writing and have them sign it before work ever starts. DonÂt be afraid to speak up when they tell you it should be done a different way than you want. If you have it writing beforehand, they canÂt charge you more to change it.

I love my house and IÂm thrilled to finally be living in it after 2 long years of working on it every weekend, holiday and vacation. ThereÂs always something you would like to change once you move in but donÂt let it be something that you specified you wanted done and the sub decided it shouldnÂt be that way. They donÂt live there, you do and youÂre paying them to do what you want done.

Comments (8)

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Good points Sandy. Hooking the pot filler to cold water is actually better though, unless you have an insta-hot or a small demand water heater under the sink. You usually have to run hot water a few moments to get it to the faucet anyway, and with a pot filler there is no where to run it except into the pot.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I've built several houses and agree that using the best subs is crucial to a good project. if you find a good sub, he WILL listen to your ides, he will offer his own, he will tell you why something won't work or that its not to code, but he won't say he can't do it because he's just too lazy to try.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Good points. Thanks for the advice as they are almost done framing our 2000 sf additon to our house (we bought a 1500 sf house on a big lot).

    One thing i'd argue with - hooking pot filler to hot water. The dAnger of hooking your pot filler to hot water is that you're using water that has been sitting in a hw tank, leaching metal into your water. It's one thing for showering, but a different for water you're using to cook. I like to let water run for a few seconds before using it to cook so it hasn't even been sitting In the water pipes!

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    We have pex pipes. They aren't copper. I cook a lot so there would be water flowing through at least once or twice a day.

    Good point for people with copper pipes!

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    They aren't talking about your pipes -- it's the metal hot water tank the water is sitting in where you get all kinds of krud and more of it will go into hot water than cool water. Might be different if you have a tankless system.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Great advice, thank you so much for posting all the information. I felt a little embarrassed the other day when the contractor brought in his tiler for an estimate and I asked him about the niche to make sure he was going to slant it a bit in the bathroom-he rolled his eyes....well, that wasn't a good response in my opinion-I was just asking a question that I learned on here! We are going with a different tiler.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I do have a tankless hot water heater on/under the sink. I will check before changing it.

    Dont assume they know what theyre doing just because its their business. I can tell you horror stories about the framer that added 12 to the back of the house and about the electrician. They are both licensed contractors but didnt/dont have a clue. We had to go back and totally rebuild the roof and part of the walls in the addition. The electrician failed 2 final inspections and finally passed. Last week, I had the 2 fans and lights on in the bedroom, the tv and was vacuuming. It blew the circuit because theyre too small. I can go on and on about both of them but you trust that they know what theyre doing since theyre licensed and they have to pass inspections.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I think there's a good caution in there about hiring "friends" to do work, too.

    When we were redoing the kitchen in our former house, we got three estimates, two from people we had personal connections with and one kitchen store. When we showed up for the appointment with the one who we had the closest tie to (he's my best friend's step-dad, and has a very successful kitchen/bath business in town), it was clear he had not spent any time at all on our kitchen layout, had not listened to a word about what we wanted or even looked at our suggested layout. We decided then and there to go with the kitchen place where we had no personal connection and where we could be demanding costumers and no one would take it personally. We didn't regret it for a moment, and went back to the same place for the kitchen we're doing now.

    I'm sure there are circumstances and some relationships where hiring family or friends is necessary, but I think it's better to keep professional and personal relationships separate if possible.

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