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Layout Help for a Longtime Lurker, Please

14 years ago

Hi All. I�ve been enjoying this forum for several years now, and have immensely enjoyed reading your comments and looking at your kitchens, as well as learning so much from you all. Since we�re in the early throes of our own remodel, it�s time for a little feedback and advice. For which I�d be most appreciative!

Our house is a 1924 Craftsman bungalow with the top popped in 1995. If you aren�t familiar with a �pop-top� as they�re known around here in Denver, it�s basically taking your bungalow and adding a second floor. These can be done very well or terribly. Ours is/was pretty awful and ugly, but in their defense, the previous owners worked with what they had from the building codes of the time regarding setbacks and bulk planes, etc, and a second floor was added which included 2 master suites. The main floor was only updated in the kitchen to a classic 1990s look(maple cabinets, black granite, and stainless steel), and that�s about it. The rabbit�s warren of rooms that is a traditional small bungalow remained. Not very practical these days.

Anyway, we bought the house in 2003 and talked about remodeling for quite awhile before we actually were able to proceed. This is more than a kitchen project, but I thought I�d start here as a few design decisions are needed very soon that will affect the rough in of the electrical and plumbing.

Almost 2 years ago we started down the path with architects(they�ve been great), and once we agreed on a plan it was put out to bid. We selected out contractor(who we�ve been very pleased with so far), and broke ground for the addition foundation March 30th. Currently we�re framing, but moving quickly.

Here�s what we have going on:

�Full gut and renovation on 3 existing levels.

�Addition to the rear with lower level, main level, and 2nd floor

�New exterior materials including windows and doors, roof shingles, cedar shake siding

�New roof line

�4 new bathrooms: (1)powder, (1)3/4 bath, and (2) full baths

�1 new kitchen

�Adding another bedroom on 2nd floor, laundry on 2nd floor, walk-in pantry, mud room, tv room, wine room, 2 small offices for my husband and self, and basically moving every room to a different location except master bedroom/walk in closet/bath(all of which are getting a little bigger).

�New deck, pergola, and landscaping�.blah, blah, blah.

Here�s the really and truly lame part. I�ve resisted posting here forever because I�ve had such issues trying to post photos. Not to mention turning my pdf architectural plans into jpgs. I�m not a total computer idiot, but sometimes these things just stall me out, so bear with me! My fingers are crossed that these show up.

What I want to start with is layout only. I�ve got plenty of ideas for the esthetic elements, but to me layout is the most fundamental aspect and everything else fits around it. And, please look at the mudroom/kitchen/pantry as a whole also. I feel like they work well, and are framed already, so I do have a sense of the space.

There are elements that cannot be changed.

�There�s a bit of wall between the kitchen and pantry that is brick and load bearing.

�The window kitchen window can be moved either way, although the original window is out and the mason will start there soon.

� 36" refrigerator(full depth, try to achieve built in look), 36" range(could go with cooktop and double oven),

�I don�t really want either a sink or cooktop on my island. Am I making an err in judgment?

I hope this give you the gist of what�s going on from both a kitchen and complete project aspect. Honestly, I�m open to all feedback. Although, keep in mind that there are a few design constraints that I may not be able to adjust.

Here we go:



This is the kitchen/pantry/mud room close up



Mostly just kitchen close-up

Comments (8)

  • 14 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    First thing I thought when looking over your plans is that I'd move the DW to the other side of the sink. Where you have it now it chops up your space. Moving to the right will make the space to the right of the range an excellent prep space. It will also allow one person to work in the kitchen without inference while another cleans up at the sink.

  • 14 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I think the thought on that was to avoid the doorway into the pantry area. I think I'm pretty much in agreement with you on this, as when I look at the dimensions, its fine. Plus, you can go around the island if you're coming through, and the dishwasher isn't open that much.

    One think I'm thinking a lot about is having the range and sink on the same run. Anyone have this and really dislike it?

  • 14 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I'm not a fan of the hallway....they tend to be a waste of space. Can you move the door over a tad and get 12" of storage on that left wall so you end up with a walk through pantry space?

    Or eliminate the hallway wall so that corner will have just 2 doorways....one to the pantry and one to the mud room....then you may be able to enlarge the island to get more than seating for 3

  • 14 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Can we see the rest of the plan? If possible, I'd rather switch the location of the dining room, with the pantry/mudroom. It would be nice to have bigger windows in the dining area, with light on two sides. And while I like the curve on the island...I'm not sure what all the other angles are about. It would probably make a lot more sense, if we could see the rest of the plan :)

  • 14 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Funny, I'm a long time lurker too, and this is my first post. My finished kitchen layout is pretty much the same as yours. I agree with the idea that DW be moved to the right of the sink. The space between the sink and the range is my main prep area. If the DW was there and on, it would get pretty sweaty. Plus I'm always cleaning as I go (putting things in the DW). Good luck!

  • 14 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    (check your character set so your apostrophes don't show up as fractions.)

    If you're right handed, I'd also move the DW. Then you're not reaching across your body to load.
    Glad to see you're doing at least 1 pocket door. Not only are they in keeping, but you gain so much space!

    I'll leave the rest to the experts.
    I adore bungalows. You're very lucky!

  • 14 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Thanks, everyone!

    CEFreeman, before I post anything else, can you tell me how to fix this apostrophe situation, please?

  • 14 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I agree with the hallway comment BUT if you got rid of it, you lose a nice big wall space to put a china cabinet/hutch or buffet which would be a great place to put drinks if you were entertaining. Yes, you have the other wall to the right but I was figuring your dining room table would pretty much fill that area.

    Are those doors to the deck? Sliding glass doors I guess. If that is the case, maybe you are not going to put the dining table where I thought you were. More layout details (like sketch in your table and whatever other furniture you plan to have in there) and the overall whole house layout would be very helpful.