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Jako Magic Corner?

14 years ago

I just had serious sticker shock after looking at Hafele Magic Corner. $750... just for the frame and hardware, another $400 for the baskets, not to mention shipping.

Has anyone tried the Jako Magic Corner? I'm very tempted, at $500 including soft close and baskets. I know I've heard bad reports on the reliability and quality of Lee Valley, so I was hoping the Jako would be a mid-price and 90% of the quality option?

If no one has any experience, I might be the first one to report back in a couple of months. :)

David

Comments (5)

  • 14 years ago

    I hadn't heard of this and looked at their website.
    Here, FWIW, are the dimensions as given there:

    That looks like a pretty small shelf area, but I don't know your space.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Jako website

  • 14 years ago

    Did I miscalculate here? I am in and out, watering the garden in this arid summer.
    But in my breaks, I just did some simple math:
    Front of shelf: 16 x 16 is 256
    Back of shelf: 11 x 18 is 200 (rounding up)
    Total shelf area: 456 square inches

    That is roughly the same as a 21 x 22 shelf (462 sq. in.) .

    In a standard 24" wide x 35'' deep cabinet, you should be able to fit a single stack of drawers or shelves, each with more surface area than that. If the interior of the drawers is 20 x 27, the usable area would be 540, almost 10 sq. in. larger than the pull-out!)

    No gain, indeed, a loss, in total storage over a single drawer stack and a blind corner.

    Did I miss something here?

  • 14 years ago

    Bellsmom, thanks for your thoughts!

    I have room for a 45" blind cabinet with a 17" door. Here's my math. If I just used a 17" wide, 24" deep drawer base with 3 drawers, after the reduction or cabinet clearances and materials I will have 13.25 x 19.75" drawers (17" width outside dim. - 3/4" plywood sides x 2 - 1/2 x 2 clearance for drawer slides - 5/8" drawer box sides x 2; 21" deep - 5/8 x 2), for 262 sq in x 3, or 785 sq in.

    The Jako hardware would give me 256 sq in for the large basket and 197 sq in for the small basket, x 2 each, or 905 sq in total. Not a lot more area, but it offers room for taller items than drawers and the psychological benefit of knowing there isn't a whole 576 sq in x 2 of untapped storage in a walled off corner. :)

    Incidentally, no other corner solution comes close to using all the available space. For example, the $1150 Hafele Magic Corner II has 4 15.375 x 18.5, or 284.4 sq in, x 4 is 1138 sq in, more than the Jako but less than the potential 1044 x 2 sq in. It's made for a 19.5" deep cabinet because they want it to fit more applications, rather than maximize a single application.

    The bottom line is I hate corners. In fact, I hate corners so much that at the suggestion of another GWer, I turned my U shape + island kitchen design into an L shape + 2 islands. Still finalizing our cabinet order, but that's one less inaccessible corner to deal with, and easier flow from dining to kitchen.

  • 14 years ago

    David
    Ah, I see. I assumed you had to use a 24'' base for the Jako.

    Will the Jako open through 17'' door? The measurement given for D, which I took to be the required width, is 23.22''. I don't see why it needs all that width, though. However, in the photos on the website, it appears that the basket is mounted significantly off-center.

    Interesting that in the diagram, the proportions of the front basket as drawn are not nearly the same as the stated almost square 15.7 x 16.3.

    If this will open through a 17'' door it is obviously a very good choice for you.

    Thanks for the math on the Hafele. Really amazing!

    Sandra

  • 14 years ago

    I see how I was reading the diagram wrong. DUH!!

    D is cabinet depth, not opening width.

    This should easily fit for you, as you already knew.

    And I agree, a very good solution.
    Sorry for the confused post above.
    Sandra