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Round 3 - paint colors

19 years ago

okay, here's the latest. I painted BM Woodstock Tan on the left and SW Burlap on the right:

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This picture was taken with the entryway light off which makes the colors look a little different. Since I don't normally keep that light on, this may be a more accurate represenation of the color

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I meant to put one of my pillows in the picture but forgot, so here's a reminder of what the rest of the room looks like:

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So, I need everyone's honest opinion, should I go lighter with the color?

Les - If you're reading this, I did pick up the SW colors you mentioned and believe it or not, they were too peachy/pinky.

Laurie

Comments (75)

  • 18 years ago

    Msrose, so sorry to hear about your DS. Things never are easy, are they? Hope he is okay (well, as okay as he can be at this moment) and that you are hanging in there, too.

  • 18 years ago

    Thank you, les. The funny thing is they told him at the hospital that he couldn't skateboard for 4 - 6 weeks. He was really freaking out over that and then I realized later he thought they said 46 weeks :)

    Laurie

  • 18 years ago

    I prefer the woodstock tan with your trim color which, by the way, I love. Do you have any tips on how to achieve that antiqued look? I want to paint built in bookcases & a large entertainment center. Good luck with your project.

  • 18 years ago

    No doubt you would prefer 46 weeks at this point! LOL

  • 18 years ago

    Laurie, bless your heart, you're working so hard on this! I like the one on the left best of the two also.

  • 18 years ago

    Laurie
    I am sorry to hear about your son..I hope he is not in too much pain...sounds like it must really hurt! I hope he heals quickly! Ree

  • 18 years ago

    Ack! A broken collar bone sounds painful! My skateboarder DS recently pulverized his thumb in a skating accident. Required emergency surgery, pins, a cast, etc. Like your DS, his *only* concern was when he could return to skating. Imagine my horror when the surgeon told us that he was fine to skate with his cast on! DS was grinning ear to ear. He only missed about 2 weeks of skating. Boys are weird.....

    Now about your colors, I really really like the color on the left. I think it perfectly pulls from the colors in your paneling, and is a warm, rich color for the rest of your furnishings.

    Now this is where I'm going to give you my "broader view" of decorating and paint choices:

    I think really you have to ask yourself the following questions:

    -Is this a color that will sooth me when I see it?

    -Is this a color I can work around with my other stuff?

    -Is this a color I could use and feel like I was "done" painting?

    -Is this a color that is a good compromise between my "ideal color" and what works in my room?

    I ask all of those because I've been asking myself the same questions. In my last house I *labored* over every decision. I wanted my house to be magazine-worthy.

    In my new house, I've found that the cost of seeking my "ideal" was giving up my peace, my sanity, my time, and a lot of my money! I started making decorating decisions based upon the criteria above. I've found personally that being done is FAR better than being perfect. There are several things in my new house that are "good enough" choices---not perfect, and yet, they work. We have family in town right now, and they've commented on how warm, inviting, and homey the new place is. Not ONE person has commented or noticed that my shade of paint in the kitchen has a slight green undertone that I find a little "off", or that the shade of white I painted my cabinets may be the "wrong" shade, etc.

    I think so many times we here on this board want to tweak every room to magazine-quality perfection. We labor over shades, tones, bricabrac, furniture placement etc. We sometimes can over analyze a room and get so caught up in the details that we forget that these places are our homes; meant to welcome us an sooth us. The fact is, House Beautiful will likely not be coming to any of our spaces for a photo shoot, and sometimes we need to just take a breath, and make a choice that is good, and not try to find the choice that is *perfect*.

    I hope you get what I'm saying, and I hope you pick the color to the left, because I think it's perfect for the space!

  • 18 years ago

    Newest picture, the 1st two colors aren't bad

    Roselvr - I was planning to take another picture like you mentioned, but we ended up in the emrgency room tonight. DS fell off his skateboard and broke his collarbone. I'll try and take a picture in the next day or two.

    Laurie

    Well, we have something in common as that's where I was last night. My daughter fractured her right wrist again, 4th time hurting it this year, 2nd fracture in one year :(

    Hope your son feels better soon. Breaking a collar bone sounds painful! The 46 weeks is funny. I swear I've heard the same thing from some doctors, they speak so fast.

    Try to hang in there

  • 18 years ago

    ACK! No fun! Hope the kids heal up quick and good as new!

    That's too funny that the darker shade of the Woodstock Tan is the Norwich Brown, which I thought was perfect when you posted it originally :).

    I know you've got your hands full, but I think a big swatch of just Norwich Brown without any other paint samples competing with it might prove to be "it"?! Maybe?! :-D

  • 18 years ago

    Thanks everyone. DS stayed home today and I'll probably let him stay home tomorrow since they're on break after that.

    Roselvr - OMG, I can't believe the same thing happened to your daughter last night. How old is she and how did she fracture her wrist? Cheerleading? Gymnastics?

    canon - I hired someone to paint my paneling and he started out painting it a bright white and then used a paintbrush to put the glaze on, leaving the brushstrokes to show.

    Reno - How did your son hurt his thumb? Did it get run over by another skater? Broken bones to phase me, but when you start talking about surgery and pins, that's a different story.

    You know, I've been trying to decide if I should settle for "good enough" or keep looking for "perfect". Right now, the answer to your questions are more like "not sure" and "maybe". I wanted to have a color picked out by the time DH came home, but I think I'll wait and see what he thinks of the Woodstock Tan

    acoreana - Thanks!

    Laurie

  • 18 years ago

    Roselvr - OMG, I can't believe the same thing happened to your daughter last night. How old is she and how did she fracture her wrist? Cheerleading? Gymnastics?

    She was running down the hall while we were coming home from the mall. I told her she can't stay home alone any more lol

    She got a cast yesterday, hopefully she won't have it on long.

    How is your son doing?

  • 18 years ago

    I liked the original color on the right because it felt warmer. Then I saw your pillow up against the two colors and the one on the left really made it pop. Can you go with the next shade lighter than the one on the left or a shade warmer? Also I see your wood is glazed? Can you try to match that to bring out that darker wood color?

  • 18 years ago

    So sorry I haven't posted my pics yet. I just finished painting the DR Quincy Tan and am so busy putting the house back in order. The main complication is with everything all over the place, I can't find my digital camera! I'm sure it's here but need to get things looking normal again in order to find it. We are thrilled with the color, although it does definitely have a green look to it, especially at night. That is ok with us as one reason we used it instead of Wilmington Tan is that the whole house was looking like the same shade of light gold, and we wanted some variation. If you are at the paint store it might be worth a look; not sure if it's available in a sample jar or not. Will post pics soon, and in the meantime, enjoy the Holiday!

  • 18 years ago

    jjam - Can't wait to see your pictures!

    I finally got around to taking a picture with the cushion and samples. The third sample from the left (2nd BM sample) is the Woodstock Tan (middle color) that I have painted on the wall. The 5th BM sample, middle color, is Powell Buff. I've wondered about it for my hallway, but I can't tell if it has yellow undertones. The 7th BM sample, middle color, is Monroe Bisque, which is another one I've considered for the hallway. The very last sample is from the Pottery Barn collection. It's Squire Hill Buff. I don't know of anyone that has used that color, so I'm not sure how it shows up. I would like to find out what the next shade darker is and see if that would look good in the entryway. The 1st sample on the left is Pony Tail from Lowes (or HD?) and it actually looks good too. There's just something about the BM historical colors that I love though.

    Laurie

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  • 18 years ago

    I just found my camera! My stress level is now back to normal. Just shot these; day after Thanksgiving mode; so the table is still partially set, but did want you to see the color. We did the tone on tone stripes and the color in flat is quite different than the satin; as you can see. So whatever you decide to use, be sure to get a sample of it in the finish you are going to go with.

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    The flash makes the paint look a bit brighter than normal, and the sun was coming in the windows pretty strong, too.

    Good Luck!

  • 18 years ago

    Which one is the flat, the lighter or the darker? I'm thinking it won't look good with my paneling, but I sure do like the color. I wish so bad that I had the paneling on the lower part only.

    I just looked at my samples and the 2nd from the right (not counting the Pottery Barn sample) is Quincy Tan (top).

    Laurie

  • 18 years ago

    MRose--all the colors in your decorative items make it hard to really evaulate the wall colors. Try taking down all the pictures and stuff and just look at the wall color and the brick and the paneling. There's a lot of visual clutter and that distracts the eye.

  • 18 years ago

    The darker color is the flat paint. The color really turned greener when we added the stripes in the satin finish, looked more taupe/light brown when we used the flat. This was a room that was driving me nuts and I'm happy with how it turned out, so I know you will be when you make your choice and see the room finished, too.
    It's a warm color without being too dark, and that is what we liked about it. It looks good with darker greens, browns, and shades of burgundy, so I thought of you. I have used this color before and it seems to adapt to whatever it is surrounded with. Good Luck in whatever you decide!

  • 18 years ago

    I think you need to pick one and go with it. I found that when colors are side by side with other things - even a white wall, they look totally different than when the wall is finished. I like the Woodstock tan the best of the colors - I like it alot on the wall, but when I look at the paint sample I don't think it looks as good, so hence my comment on seeing it in a bigger space.

    As far as your entry choices, I think the lighter colors from Lowe's and Pottery Barn are way to close to the color of your paneling. I think those will just blend in and be sortof like more of the paneling. How about doing the lighter top shade off the Woodstock Tan for the entry?

  • 18 years ago

    Caroleoh - You know, I've also been looking at the sample card of Woodstock Tan thinking it looks nothing like the color on the wall. I'm actually wanting to do the darker color on the entryway and the lighter color on the hallway, which is to the left of the last picture I posted. There's a picture further up that shows the hallway and entryway. I was thinking that if I went with a darker color on the entrway, I should try to match the paneling color for the hallway. What do you think?

    Laurie

  • 18 years ago

    I don't think I'd paint any wall to match your paneling. You've got enough of that color going on. I'm a bit confused on how your room is in relation to the entry - the area behind the TV wall? and where does the hallway come off of?

    I'm sortof big on choosing coordinating colors when the rooms will connect - so I'll go with colors on the same card since then I'm pretty sure they'll be the same tones but just lighter or darker. I'd paint the entry the Woodstock Tan, look at it for a few days and then decide on the hallway, but I'm thinking the shade lighter than Woodstock vs. a shade darker.

  • 18 years ago

    The very last sample is from the Pottery Barn collection. It's Squire Hill Buff.

    I really like the one on the right, does it have complimentary colors with it? I like that it picks up the lighter in your wood, but would like to see a card with the variations of lighter / darker. Maybe if you took that color to the BM store to see what they have?

  • 18 years ago

    I would move more towards the mocha end of the spectrum. I was playing around with colors in Photoshop and, as beige colors go, I found they (mochas) worked the best with your glazed paneling.

    What do you think? I believe it was the third sample from the left, the one in the middle, that I sampled in this picture, but my computer froze in the process and I had to restart, so I can't be sure.

  • 18 years ago

    I meant to add that this color looks similar to the Woodstock Tan that everyone seems to like, except maybe a bit lighter. Just a small variation I thought you might like to consider, since you weren't sure about Woodstock Tan.

  • 18 years ago

    Caroleoh - I origanlly didn't want to match the color of the paneling because I didn't want to emphasize the peachy tone of the paneling, so you've reminded me of that. The probem I ran into was finding a complimentary for it. In the picture I posted below for rosewind, you can see that the hallway is to the left. The entryway to the right is where the front door is, but there is a space that runs behinds the bookshelves. The original picture I posted, I was standing in that space, taking a picture of the entryway by the front door. Hope that makes sense.

    Oh, goodie, we have another photoshopper on here! Thank you so much,rosewind! I've also been wondering about something similar to the Woodstock Tan, but in a little bit lighter shade. I think that's kind of what you did, but I'm still not sure what I think. Could you do me a favor and make the entrway the same color you used and then make the hallway(on the left)the color of the first card above (the biggest card on the left) using this picture:

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    Rslvr - Here's a picture of the other colors that go with Squire Hill Buff. SH is the 4th one down. The one under it is Twilight Gold, so I'm afraid it might look too gold, since it was mentioned that the Woodstock Tan looks kind of gold.

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    Laurie

  • 18 years ago

    This is kind of rough, as I'm a bit short on time today, but here is your request. Hope this is what you wanted:

    Here is Woodstock Tan (sorry I didn't get it around the front door wall.):

  • 18 years ago

    Oops - I think I got the Woodstock Tan a little too dark. Will try that one again later on today.

  • 18 years ago

    Ugh, I'm not liking that color in the hallway. Carol, you were right. Thanks, rosewind. I have another big favor to ask (when you have time of course). Squirrel did some great mock-up before that showed my paneling in different colors. Here's one:

    Is there any way you could make the paneling an off-white without showing the antique effect that it currently has? I know the shade of my paneling is what's throwing me off, but I'm afraid a solid white or off-white might be too plain.

    Laurie

  • 18 years ago

    Are you thinking of painting the paneling now!??

    You must be about mad trying to get these colors right. I do not like the lighter/mocha color in the above post. I think you need to go with something darker and richer like the Woodstock Tan. If you do decide to paint the paneling a creamy off white, I think it would still go very well with teh Woodstock Tan.

  • 18 years ago

    caroleoh: I went lighter and I went a just little more towards the mocha end of the spectrum because I thought (JMHO) the Woodstock Tan clashed with msrose's upholstery colors. msrose also didn't seem altogether happy with the Woodstock Tan, so I thought maybe I'd try to sort of blend the colors in the paneling, darken them a bit, and slide over a little towards mocha so that it would work better with her upholstery colors.

    Ah well, so sorry this didn't work for ya, msrose. I did try to cover the glaze in the paneling with a fresh coat of Photoshop paint; unfortunately, the results were not satisfactory, as it looked kind of "cartoonish" when I was finished. It would take more time than I have to play around with the controls and then I may or may not be able to achieve the desired effect. Plain, flat walls are easy to alter but this paneling is really tricky. Again, sorry.

    Here's hoping you resolve your color crisis soon!

    -rosewind

  • 18 years ago

    caroleoh - I don't know what I'm thinking now. I still don't think I could bring myself to tell DH I want to repaint it, and to be honest, I worry that I might not like that either, but it would be eaiser to work with. I guess I just wanted to see a picture so I would know for sure if that's something I would like to do one day. I'm so tried of looking at colors that I am thinking about just going with the Woodstock Tan, but I'm still not sure about the hallway.

    rosewind - Thank you so much for trying.

    Laurie

  • 18 years ago

    Another thought...

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  • 18 years ago

    I think the card you posted is a safe bet if you're tired. There are lighter and darker, although I wouldn't go past the 4th color. I would not paint the wood...

    Good luck. Going away for a week, can;t wait to see what you'll pick when I get back (assuming I have no internet during the week)

  • 18 years ago

    Oceanna~

    That's really beautiful! :o) Love it!

    What do you think, msrose?

  • 18 years ago

    Thanks, oceanna. I had thought of painting the smaller pieces of trim, but I hadn't thought of painting the flat pieces in between also. If I was going to do that, I would still have to paint all of it to get rid of the fleshy tone, but at least it wouldn't be too plain. I'm saving your picture so I'll remember this if I do decide to paint it later on.

    Laurie

  • 18 years ago

    Thanks, Totallyblessed, and you're welcome MsRose. I saw something similar on TV today and it was trimmed out with black and brown posters. It was actually a beige stiped wallpaper in each of the panels and it was stunning. It's in an elevator in the movie "Elf" if you want to see it. I thought of your room immediately.

    I think doing this would highlight your georgeous panelling and add interest to the room. It also brightens it up a bit, kinda' lets the sunshine in and makes it a bit more playful.

  • 18 years ago

    Laurie, are you saying you haven't discussed your unhappiness about the paneling color with your DH? How do you know that he doesn't hate it, too, but thinks YOU like it so doesn't want to say anything?

    All the paint in the world used in the hall and entry isn't going to change how you feel about the major room that you live in daily. It isn't going to get any cheaper to fix the problem, either.

    Have you talked to the person who did the painting, to see what they might suggest to change it?

    Life is too short to live in a room that makes you unhappy.

  • 18 years ago

    les - I guess it's more of a pride thing. DH wasn't sold on the antique effect from the beginning. Once the guy painted the paneling white, DH tried to talk me into just leaving it like that, but it was just too stark white and I had my mind set on the antique effect. I just can't bring myself to tell him I don't like it. Plus, part of the problem is that I'm wanting to use warm golden colors like I've seen on here, but none of my furnishings work with that. So, not only would the paneling color have to change, but I would have to have new furniture and that's just not going to happen. I dream of painting my walls with something like BM Wilmington Tan or SW Restrained Gold. I was actually planning to hire someone to paint my entryway and I was going to talk to her about the paneling, but we've had some unexpected expenses so I may end up painting the entryway myself.

    Laurie

  • 18 years ago

    I vote the last one Oceanna posted. Great look and unexpected.

  • 18 years ago

    Laurie
    I really hate to say this but.... I don't think you are going to be happy unless you paint the paneling (sorry, please don't hate me!) I think if you do, your options are wide open. You love the warm gold tones, and you do have that in your fabrics.. you are knocking your self out and I am sure you must be drained by now, I feel terrible for what you have been through I think at this point, maybe you should really consider it, want to see you happy and love your room (smile)
    Ree

  • 18 years ago

    Ree - I would never hate you! You're not saying anything that I haven't already thought about. I actually don't have any shades of gold in my fabric. It's all shades of green, so I didn't really think the golden colors on the wall would go with my furniture. I dream of having gold with accents of red like your dining room, but then again my carpet probably wouldn't go with that color scheme either. I'm really afraid of trying to paint the paneling myself, but if hubby ever takes another trip to China, I might just try it.

    Laurie

  • 18 years ago

    msrose,

    I have to say I agree with reeree. The color of the paneling is going to throw you off no matter what. It reminds me of the white washed wood from several years ago and what looked good with that tone were the aquas, teals, mauves, etc. It's a much more light/pastel look. I think the paneling may never look good with the warm, rich colors you're drawn to now. (By the way, I have whitewashed pecan furniture in my master bedroom. It's not being replaced and I'm going through a similar struggle with color.) I think les917's idea of talking to your original painter is a good idea. He may be able to put one more coat of glaze on the paneling in a different color and it will make a huge difference (and maybe not cost too much). The wood in that room takes up a lot of wall and I think that if the dominant color isn't something you like, you'll nver be happy when you're in there.

    beache

  • 18 years ago

    I love to paint!

    You know, we women get stuck with a lot of jobs that are so darned temporary, while men get the ones with lasting good. Like, do the dishes and twenty minutes later someone's piled dirty ones on the counter, or at best your work only lasts for a few hours. But if a guy mows the lawn it's good for a week, and if he builds a shelf it lasts forever to make him feel good. But we get the dirty diapers, and the laundry, and making meals... well, you see where I'm going? I think that's one of the reasons I love painting... your work is there to admire and enjoy for a long time.

    Another reason I love it is it makes everything all new, clean and pretty.

    It's not hard, I find it relaxing, and it's so nice when it's done. I say put your favorite tunes on, and jump in!

  • 18 years ago

    Laurie
    You may be able to use the right tone of gold if you painted your paneling. It's a pretty neutral color. It harmonizes well with reds, green and creams etc.(I had to take another look at your fabric, I thought at first it had gold tones also) Or you can go with greens, there's so many beautiful shades.. then maybe you can save the gold for another room? I just feel your pain agonizing over the color's.. you have me exhausted by how many times you've been to the paint store lol!!! Maybe it will be good to take a breather for a while...really think it out, and if you are up to it, then you can paint it. I feel you will be much happier (smile)
    Ree

  • 18 years ago

    oceanna - I wish I felt that way about painting, but I hate it. I especially get frustrated because I haven't done it enough to be good at cutting in without getting it on the ceiling or the baseboards.

    Laurie

  • 18 years ago

    I do have a question for those of you that have used glazes before. I was originally thinking that a walnut glaze would be pretty, but what color would look good if I wanted to use a golden paint color on the entryway and hallway or is there a glaze that would look good with that?

    Laurie

  • 18 years ago

    You know the picture with your adorable dog? Those burgundy pictures look really great on the wall. I think at least some of your walls could be a strong deep red color. With light walls and carpet you can pull that off.
    I also think your brown should match Adorable Dog. (S)He "goes" really well with all the colors. Just my opinion, but you do have some beautiful "bones" in the room.

  • 18 years ago

    The house we recently purchased had the island cabinets painted in the exact same antiqued way as your paneling (with the main cabinets stained walnut). Before we moved in we asked the homeowner (who did this herself) to stain the island darker to match the main cabinets because we did not care for the look of the island. I was actually worried about how the stain over the paint would look - but it came out fine. She used a walnut stain. I think your paneling is lovely but the problem is the color - I would consider as the others have suggested staining it darker, perhaps a mahogany, walnut or cherry color - whatever your painter might suggest. I think then the room would be warm and elegant.

  • 18 years ago

    Laurie, This MAY seem like it doesn't apply because it is about kitchens, but it can be translated to any room we are having difficulty with. This was over in the kitchens forum, by another GWer, Sweeby. Read the article and then imagine what you want the room to "feel" like. I understand the frustration. I had post's all over the place on this site about my DS bedroom and what color to paint the walls. I agonized about this since July! I finally painted last week and went with his original thought and painted it RL Hunting Coat Red. Some may say he was telling me this all along, but I know what a PITA painting with red can be and that is why I shyed away from it. Anyway, it is done and it looks perfect and he is happy...and so am I! In other words, I did what I knew I should have done in the first place, but didn't because I thought it would be a PITA. I wasted time and he lived with an assortment of paint blotches all over the walls. Is there a way you can try and use another glaze over what is there, maybe a thin glaze that might help add to it and distract from the color already there? Does thst make any sense? I would try to adjust the glaze you have somehow if I could. I really feel your pain also. I wish I could come and help somehow, but know that many of us ARE holding your hand!

    Here is a link that might be useful: The Sweeby Test

  • 18 years ago

    momkitchen - Thanks. I've actually been wondering if I should get away from the burgundy and accent with the tans and browns that are in that picture.

    trying2buy - Do you have any picture of the island? I'd love to see how it turned out.

    kmcg85 - My problem is that I want my house to look warm similar to Susan's and that would involve more than just changing the paneling so that's why I'm trying to just make this work. My furniture isn't that old, so I couldn't justify getting something new, but I keep thinking that when I do, that may we the time that I can change colors. I was actually wondering about putting another glaze over it. I'm not positive, but I think the painter also painted some extra shelves, so I could experiment on that myself.

    Laurie

    Here is a link that might be useful: Susan's house