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17 years ago

Would my contractor put the wrong pulls (cup vs. strap) on the pull out cabinets AND put them in the insets instead of the frame?

Now I have holes in my cabinet doors that either have to be filled or I have to live with it (and order more cup pulls since I am short - but also over on the straps).

I just don't get why they do some things without asking. I pick up the phone 99% of the time when he calls. I have 2 kinds of pulls - maybe you want to check to make sure you are doing it right???

I just keep remembering when I posted to the forum to ask whether to do cup over cup or cup over strap, and one person responded "whatever you do, just don't let them install them in the inset" Wah.

Comments (18)

  • 17 years ago

    LOL, I am so sorry. Do you have painted cabs? That can be fixed pretty easily.

    If it makes you feel any better, my GC put in double (!) outlets through the entire remodel. Why? "you can never have too many outlets". Sure, now I can plug in every electric thing I ever owned and still have outlets to spare.

    I guess "why" could be answered with "because he thought it looked good that way".

  • 17 years ago

    Were there any drawings or was there any discussion about it before he did it? I might expect new doors on his dime especially if they are stained.

  • 17 years ago

    I'm so sorry.... :(

  • 17 years ago

    So sorry to hear about this blunder.
    I've had much the same experience (although not in my kitchen)w/ a contractor who cut/ drilled / tore off before okaying the plans w/ me. I know how frustrating this can be. Keep us posted.

  • 17 years ago

    They are painted cabinets - they can be fixed pretty easily, really?? Tell me more . . .

    I sent him an email where I said that I wanted the cup pulls on all the drawers and regular pulls on all the doors, but center under the cup pulls on the pull out doors. I did not specify on the frame or the inset. Silly me, I couldn't imagine anyone doing such a thing . . .

    Lynne

  • 17 years ago

    Arghhhhh ... I'm so sorry!

    How many doors are we talking about? I don't think they're going to be easy to fill. =(

    I can't imagine why he wouldn't ask you. If it were me, I'd expect him to replace the doors he messed up.

  • 17 years ago

    Two doors - one for the pull out trash, and one for the tray/cookie sheet pull out.

    I emailed my KD to see if she knew of any way to fix them (and have it look good). If not, I'll ask her how much for new doors. Of course, DH thinks it looks fine and I should leave it. Grrr.

  • 17 years ago

    I definitely sympathize. I've just been carrying books upstairs (as usual) to cases they fit in because they're too deep for my wall-to-wall bookcase in the dining room. I told our carpenters 11" deep; but "knowing" bookcases have always been 9" deep (for antique books!), they framed the walls and doorway allowing for that depth and no more. Which means they've been goofing people up for the past 20 years and haven't clued in yet.

    The tile guy disapproved my layout and "corrected" it. The grader listened carefully and while I was gone for 10 minutes made forever and completely different changes to our hillside (NEVER turn your back on someone in your yard with a bulldozer). The place for my built-in ironing board holds plumbing instead. The framers gave me a flat ceiling to the porch instead of following the roofline, and I've obviously blocked a bunch of others.

    Buy 2 more doors, paying yourself if necessary, and move on. If you ever think of building a house, plan on this aggravation x80 at the very least.

  • 17 years ago

    Rosie, thanks for your post. You actually made me feel better! I was feeling really stupid - you know how it goes, you are angriest with yourself ("I should have communicated it better, I should have sent two notes, I should have called him.") But, hearing it happens to others even when they have been diligent helps me forgive myself.

    Lynne

  • 17 years ago

    well, you expect these people to not only have a brain but to know something about their business!

    at the onset it sounds like you need to VERY STERNLY tell EACH worker to follow the plans or what YOU say you want. you are the owner and the one paying THEM. If they have any questions to please speak up and ask - BUT in the end it is your choice, option etc that WINS out. and that if they decide on their own and they are wrong - it'll cost THEM.

    shoot, I think I'd have a statement of that printed up and have each read in my presence and sign it!!

    and it sounds like you might have to tell these people more than once. check weekly (or daily) to be sure they REMEMBER it.

    A sign stating that made up and posted at the work sign probably wouldn't hurt either.

    At least then they couldn't say they didn't know, didn't want to 'bother' you etc.

    I'm learning. even tho my bf, his son and workers will probably be doing most of my work I think I'll post a sign like that. It'll probably irritate them - but too bad.
    Actually, I can 'hear' some of them now (in advance) making comments etc.
    every time my dbf etc 'helps' me out I tell myself 'never again' or 'I can't AFFORD to let him/them do it FREE'! lol!

    my sister doesn't understand why i don't let him help me more...

  • 17 years ago

    Lynne,

    They are painted cabs so they can be filled with woodfiller, sanded, and touched up with paint. If they were a factory stain or finish I would say otherwise, but I have filled in 1/2" gaps in baseboards (where they met the floor), and knot holes in wood cabs without anyone knowing the difference.

  • 17 years ago

    I think they can be filled and fixed as well. When our cabinet guy installed our painted cabinets he was putting the bottom trim on one cabinet and the nail shot right through the face of the cabinet! He freaked out, not at us but at the idea that he was going to have to re-do the cabinet...it had been a long day for him and he's a perfectionist! He took the cabinet off the wall, which freaked me out because I was afraid that would mess it up more! He brought it back several days later and it looked perfect, I tried to see where the hole had been and couldn't find it, so I'm sure no one else could either...well maybe my perfectionist cabinet guy who I love!

    Good luck and I'm sorry about their mistake!

    Kat :)

  • 17 years ago

    Hmm, they are factory painted (KM), so do you still think the holes wouldn't be noticed after touch up? Maybe KD can supply some sort of TU paint.

  • 17 years ago

    I read somewhere that KM cabs come with a touch up kit so I did a search and found this info. I don't know if this will help...

    http://www.kraftmaid.com/CareForYourCabinetry/MaintainYourCabinetry/Cabinets/Touch-upCabinetFinishes.aspx

  • 17 years ago

    Thank you inlauren! You guys are great.

  • 17 years ago

    Lynne, communication is a 2-way street and a lot of contractors think they know better than you how things are done, so they aren't listening. I can't tell you how many things we had similar issues over -- and hardware placement was one I did worry about. I would have insisted on all new doors, so it's fortunate that they got that right.

    I could have been one who said "whatever you do...., but I do have my cup pulls in the inset. They seemed too crowded on the very tops of my drawers(hope I always love them), but I think that's an issue of your drawer style. You do see drawer pulls in the center, and I think you might be okay on those, but I would not like doors with knobs or straight pulls in the inset.

    My dad added the hardware to his current cabinets. He put knobs -- no cup pulls, into the corner of the inset. They are white rimmed i antique brass on stained cabinets, and I know that if I have to sell the house some day, one of the first things I will have to do is see if I just replace hardware if I go with a darker metal finish or if I will have to get new doors made or paint the cabinets. I think buyers will overlook a lot of kitchen goofs (even intentional ones), but the white knobs jump out at you. I'm sure he did the same thing in the bathrooms and utility room, but I think all those are painted cabinets.

    Anyway -- don't worry about what we say. Worry about what you like on your cabinets and try to get it right. Hope it's a minor fix.

  • 17 years ago

    We are building new construction and had one cabinet designated that we would put the trash pull-out in and communicated this to the custom cabinet maker during the design process. When our cabinets went in, we noticed they had drilled for the knob on the side, instead of centered, as we'd asked. So, we called, let him know that he goofed up and asked about filling it and he said that it would be very noticeable on our stained cabinets (they were unfinished at the time as they're stained on site, but still), and instead replaced the door for free. Honestly, if you're talking two doors, I would try to see if you could get them to pay for it as you did not tell them to drill there, don't take the blame for their mistake!

  • 17 years ago

    Kat, would you mind posting the name/contact info of your cabinet maker? He sounds like a gem.

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