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Kitchen Clean Up Area......which option please?

15 years ago

Trying to decide which clean up station option is best.....

OPTION #1 - DW + Sink + Trash [where sink is offset and NOT centered on window. I thought the offset sink [see link for pic] was a clever solution, but DH does NOT like this sink and wants it to be rectangular....but I don't think that a rectangular sink will work with this layout.

OPTION #2 - Trash + DW + Sink [where the sink is centered but the trash is less accessible.] Should I go with this layout to please DH, or will we regret that decision.

The link below shows the two elevations, and scroll see the entire kitchen layout. I have posted a few times, and we are down to the last few decisions!

I am off to the appliance store to see 36" Aga Pro+ tomorrow and the cabinet store to see the new LuxGuard finish from Crystal Cabinet Works. Wish me luck!

Here is a link that might be useful: Pics of the Options

Comments (11)

  • 15 years ago

    I am new to this site and not an expert. In fact, I am just in the baby steps of planning kitchen and bath remodels. Aesthetically, I truly prefer Option 2, with the entire sink (not just faucet) centered on the window. Ergonomically, for a right-handed person (not really assuming you are), it might be better to have the trash on the right side as in Option 1, but either way, your DW is on the left side. I don't think it would be all that bad to scrape food scraps into the trash while the DW is closed, then open the DW to load it. I also would prefer a full, rectangular sink with the drain directly beneath the faucet's stream, which you won't have with the offset option. I don't think it's a huge issue that the trash is less conveniently located the cooking area. I actually like the trash being on the corner by your back door--good place to stand and "dump" the junk mail and keep those (e.g. kids) just needing access to the trash away from the busy sink and cooking areas. Hopefully the GW experts will chime in and help you, too!

  • 15 years ago

    Here are my concerns:
    -#2: Not enough room next to sink before corner.
    -Both #1&2: where will the dishes from the DW be unloaded to? Seems like it may be far.

    Given these comments, I'd go with #1 (though I agree that #2 looks better).

  • 15 years ago

    I'm learning so much so fast on GW...should learn to get off line and go to sleep! You do have a glass-front cabinet above the DW, so you'll unload at least glassware in there (not far). In my current kitchen, we can only fit our glassware in our (small) cabinet above the DW, so we do have to walk the plates and flatware around the island to another upper wall cabinet. Not the best, but better than having to walk individual glasses across a room. Maybe Angie_DIY mistook the cabinet above the DW for another window? I, at first, did. Another thought: In Option 1, the cabinet is directly above the DW. If standing to the right of the open DW, it will be very easy to unload into that cabinet, assuming hinges are on the left. In Option 2, the cabinet is left of center of the DW. If standing next to the sink with an opened DW to the left, will you be able to easily reach the far left side of the cabinet's shelves? Just asking this b/c my dad's new kitchen has this situation with the cabinet being farther away from the DW, and he has difficulty reaching over and reloading the cabinet (we are short people) when the DW is open. If this is the case, I guess you have to decide what is more important: better looks, but with slightly annoying ergonomics, or what works best. Most people will probably say function is more important in the long run.

  • 15 years ago

    Have you considered putting the trash between the DW and sink? If it is a trashpullout, there should be room in the back of the cabinet to run the hoses. This might let you center the dishwasher under the upper and center the sink under the window. No real comment on if it would function better or worse, but just want to have all your options available.

    My grandparents originally did not have a dishwasher in their kitchen, but the kids bought them one for Christmas one year that is on rollers. Don't know if they are called porable or what. Because it was not in the original layout, there is a cabinet inbetween the sink and where they keep the dishwasher. It actually works pretty well as a staging area.

  • 15 years ago

    I looked at the entire plans on your site. Personally I would have the prep sink, DW, trash and drawers for dishes in the island where you have seating and the table located. Although now that I say this I'm not sure how long your island is and if it can accommodate all these. The DW and dish storage need to be close together and these should ideally be close to their point of use - the island or table. Trash needs to live close to DW and prep space.

    Of the 2 options you posted, centering the sink with the window gets my nod.

  • 15 years ago

    {{!gwi}}

    Something like this. I looked at the rest of your kitchen drawings and it looks like it would work. What some may be missing with just the entry that you linked is that although this is a corner, there is a run of cabinets on the right hand side, so the sink, centered under the window, is not directly next to a wall.

  • 15 years ago

    The sink close to under the window, but off, would bother me. Also, I strongly suggest the trash go on the corner of the island, pulling either toward the sink or toward the stove. This makes it handy to the cooking area, while you're loading the dw, and for whatever activity on the end of the island.

    My other suggestion is in the similarly sized cabinet to the left of the range. Then use the #2 configuration, but replaced the trash with a bank of drawers for kitchen towels, etc.

  • 15 years ago

    That was supposed to say "My other suggestion is to put the trash in the similarly sized cabinet to the left of the range."

  • 15 years ago

    #1 for sure. It's a good layout, very functional, and will look good once in. I'd never give up precious prep space to center the sink where I really want to work. Those missing square feet would be next to worthless to me on the far side of the DW. Plus, I hate having cleanup right at my elbow as I do the fun work.

    If worried reactionary visitors will think you're the gang that couldn't sink straight, tho, maybe: 1. Tell them the plumbing was too expensive to move. Almost everyone buys that one. 2. A low-profile faucet so not to point a finger specifically at the sink. Very high-profiles are a current trend and can look good, but that'll pass soon enough and they're scarcely the only choice. Personally, I chose low-rise because I didn't want people looking through my kitchen and noticing the water faucet. 3. Use an integrated sink made of the same material or color as the counter material. 4. Tape some pages of off-center sinks from expensive magazines to the walls. 5. Meet them at a restaurant.

  • 15 years ago

    Oops, yeah, I thought the cabinet above the DW was a window.

  • 15 years ago

    Functionally....#1!!! Even aesthetically, #2 looks cramped...like you don't really have enough room for all that you're putting on that wall. You do have room, it's just that by putting the sink so close to the corner it looks like it's cramped.

    You're right about the trash in #2, it's pretty much useless for anyone working in the kitchen...but outsiders can use it. If you go w/Option #2, I would add another trash pullout on the island facing the range and on the sink end so it can be used from the Prep, Cooking, and Cleanup Zones.

    As to left or right handedness...it's not really a factor for the majority of people. What's really a factor is what you're used to. You will get used to whatever side it's on. We're right-handed and have had the DW on both the left and right and can say there's no difference in usability.


    Why doesn't your DH like the sink? Does he use the sink the most or do you? If him, then I'd let him have the major vote (I did that w/our cleanup sink...it was my DH's choice). If you, you should have the major vote.

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