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Floor Electrical Outlet - Cool, Ugh, Ehh?

16 years ago

Does anyone have electrical outlets set into the floor of their kitchen?

I am thinking of a worktable, not a fixed island, but I'd like to be able to sometimes run blender, mixer, etc on it - without cords criss-crossing my aisles. So I'd locate a duplex outlet in a rectangular brass housing with brass flip-up doors, right in the center of the kitchen, right next to the usual table location.

The floor is brown-green-gray slate, there is some chance we might change to oak thin strip wood floors. The worktable will have a frame/legs of either white-painted wood or stainless steel tubing.

Does this sound functionally okay? How about aesthetically?

Comments (18)

  • 16 years ago

    The prior owners have them in the family rm and living rm. I like them, but in a kitchen id worry about spills. Is it even to code?

    The prior owners had outlets in the island, in little drawers that pulled out --- never seen that before..

  • 16 years ago

    In my location they are not allowed by code in kitchens because of the water issue.

  • 16 years ago

    Code would be an issue, in another house I lived there was an outlet on the floor in the kitchen it always seemed dangerous to me.

  • 16 years ago

    If you could do it safely, I think it is a great idea. If not, then perhaps putting it on some sort of decorative column/pole would work.

  • 16 years ago

    Dangnabbit, pesky code. I'll have to do some research here.

  • 16 years ago

    I saw this technology a couple years ago, and always thought it would a great idea in the kitchen. Doesn't seem to have taken off, though.

    Here is a link that might be useful: E-coupled Technology

  • 16 years ago

    There's a gizmo that's been posted here before. It's basically a pop up outlet that gets installed in the counter.

    Here's a {{!gwi}} that was originally posted by remodelfla.

    And here are mockett power and data pop ups which certainly suit for a counter. I don't think electrical flies on the floor in wet areas. Probably all right in a living room if you have a permanent furniture plan.

  • 16 years ago

    John, I've heard of it and used to recommend it before someone said there were code issues. I think some of it is size of kitchen. The ones I know of are pretty big and the outlets may be far enough from the water or something.

    The flip up doors, however, sound like a no go to me, even so! I'd think you'd want a recessed outlet with a watertight, screw off cover, and some kind of protection for when it's open.

  • 16 years ago

    We have one - PO had it put in, and if you can believe it...didn't put in a GFCI. (Anywhere in the kitchen or in any of the bathrooms, actually. I was stunned.) They'd been mopping the floor for years like this, surely? Insane.

    So we put in the ground fault circuit for the whole kitchen and I ordered a marine outlet cover from Marinco, which works like a charm for keeping water out of the outlet. It's under our stainless steel worktable island which I hate. (Mainly because it's the only good place to put pots and pans, but as open storage 1' off the ground, I basically have to clean them before using them half the time. Plus it's a classic Barrier Island between my prep and cooking zones.)

    Anyway, here's the outlet cover I have...

    {{!gwi}}

  • 16 years ago

    "Dangnabbit, pesky code. I'll have to do some research here."

    The pesky code is there so that people don't electrocute themselves when there's water on the floor, as there often is in kitchens. Also so that fires are not caused when dust/water/whatever else is on the floor gets into the outlet.

  • 16 years ago

    It's a great thing to mop over. You'll really get a CHARGE out of your day!

  • 16 years ago

    ideagirl, I feel certain that John was being funny when he called the code "pesky" - people here know that electrical is nothing to mess around with.

    That said - for argument's sake, how is this all that different than the counter-situated outlets pllog mentions? Water and gunk are as present on my counters as they are on my floor. Maybe that says a lot about how (often) I use my kitchen...

  • 16 years ago

    Youngdeb, you're probably right. Sorry, tone of voice just doesn't come through in online posts.

    I have no idea about the counter ones Rococogirl (not Pllog) mentioned. But the second link was clearly for office furniture, not kitchen counters. With the first link, they didn't show it in place so you couldn't tell.

  • 16 years ago

    They have floor mounted electrical points in all kinds of commercial locations where really wet mopping is done, including kitchens. When I was researching, I found more objections to them as tripping hazards in the home than moisture concerns. The point is that they need to be done correctly or not at all. I saw a scary DIY page that just had someone putting in a junction box in the basement and poking it through the floor. Even in a living room, you have to be careful about pet (and human) hair, dust, fibers, long naps on the carpet, etc., getting into the socket and causing a fire. The important thing is that even if it's allowed by code, it has to be done right. :)

  • 16 years ago

    The pullup grommet by Mockett has a rubber seal on it, which keeps it dry when below counter level and its above counter level when in use. Still it should be GFCI and may not be allowable in all areas. It is a good option when allowable when there are other structural issues such as counter level windows.

    I guess the ideal pop up would have a cutoff that turned the power off when it was closed up.

    I suppose this could be used in the floor if code allowed it but the problem would be technically you could trip over it if it were pulled up with the table Not in place.

    I think in commercial settings the floor outlets are probably turned off when floor maintenance is done.

  • 16 years ago

    This is what I used for my counter; it's down the page. There are GFCI floor outlets. It may be all you need. Word of warning: expensive.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Lew electric.

  • 16 years ago

    I know this will be as horrifying as if I said I was a werewolf, but I'm not actually that diligent about mopping the kitchen floor . . . I mean, I'm going to rinse off the dropped roast after picking it up anyway . . .

    I'm also personally not concerned about water from the mopping that I might in theory do someday, given a purpose-designed water-tight floor box and GFCI circuit. Yes, the boxes are expensive, but I'd only use one.

    If the local inspector won't allow it, that's another story, so I'll do some checking.

    Thanks for the feedback and ideas!

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