Now, this would be beautiful over the island!

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I really like this island with pot rack above.

II find it handy to have the microwave near both the fridge (where things come from to go into it), and near the stove, so I can use the microwave in my meal prep and keep track of both....So I'd prefer it in an upper by the fridge. (to the left)

THe same goes for the oven at times (ability to keep an eye on both it and the stove). Mostly, I'd want the oven nearest where the baking tools and supplies will be, and I don't see a place for that with it to the left of the main sink. Where it is now is where I imagine a better place for dish storage. In this set up, I think I might put the dw to the left of the sink with dish storage and make a baking area in the corner where you show the plate rack, and include the oven there. I'd ideally like the baking area to the outside of the stove (the right hand end), but you don't have much room while keeping the stove behind the island. If you put the oven and baking area to the left, you could possibly scoot the stove a bit to the right.

Rhome- Sorry, I forgot to say that I'm not doing a cooktop, but a range, so one oven will be near the fridge. As for the microwave, I only use it to melt margerine, but my husband uses it all the time. Most of his stuff will be in the big freezer, right behind the microwave area.

As for a baking center, I was thinking the corner would be a great place, or maybe even the island. I bake a lot, so I agree with you that I need a dedicated space. I like a raised oven, but any second oven would be wonderful. I cook a lot of things from scratch, so meatloaf and baked potatoes could be in one oven and biscuits or cornbread (or muffins) in the other.

I thought by moving the fridge near the range...and adding the second sink, I could have my cooking area on one side of the island and leave the other side for clean up and my huband's microwave area :)

Do you think this will work well? What do you think about the oven with the microwave? Raised or under counter?

If the oven is extra and you won't use it as your primary, I say keep it under the counter and raise the micro so you have more counter on that wall, including right under the mw for a landing spot.

I think your w/s is still tucked too close into the corner for safe operation. Not to mention you need more space around it for wood and kindling storage, plus additional non-combustible hearth sticking out in front of the stove. The hearth will need to stick out into the pathway from the door if your latest drawing is accurate.

Having the w/s less than four feet from your fridge will cause the frdige to work extra hard. You could mitigate that somewhat by building an insulating wall on the stove side of fridge.

Have you considered a built-in bench along along the adjoining corner walls near the window to gain some extra space for the w/s clarances? You could plunk a big ottoman in the middle to serve as a foot or tray support.

I urge you, again, to fnalize the stove type and placement (and chimney construction design and position) before you get too far along with your other plans for appliances and decor. Wood stoves are so demanding that they drive nearly every other decision you'll make. Save yourself from later having to give up other elements you're thinking of now because the reality of safe w/s placement is a b*#ch.

(Although it seems bizarre to think about now, the old-fashioned habit of moving the w/s into the house only in the winter was driven by the fact that the darn things take up so much space.)

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I was surpised at how far out into the room I had to bring my woodstove when we had it at a diagonal. The hearth is is on measures 5'2" square.

I think it required something like 18" from the corner to the wall, way more room than you might think. If you wall is solid brick, you can get by with less. Our wall is framed construction with cement board over top covered by Z brick - and that is considered a combustible wall for room clearance.

This stove is set as close to the wall as specifications allowed.

When we swapped the den and dining room, we moved the stove so it's square to the wall - now it faces right into the kitchen

Thank you all for your input :)

As for the fridge placement, I'm still debating whether I want it closer to the pantry or woodstove. While I can see the advantage of having it further from the woodstove, I do like the idea of a bar sink. However, then I'm stuck with an island I cannot move. I'm going to a friend's house later today and see if I like her island.

As for the woodstove, the little Jotul I like is quite small and with a non-combustible wall, it only has to be 11" from the back and 8" from the side. This part of the house is a remodel down to the studs, so that shouldn't be a problem.

Thanks for the pictures, Macy, you have a really nice stove. That must heat your whole house! I just want one that can boil water in a tea kettle :)

So, if the fridge would be better on the sink wall, then I'll move the oven/microwave back by the woodstove. This means I probably won't need the second sink, but I still like the pot rack. I'll know more, after I see my friend's island.

Any other ideas or suggestions? I really appreciate all your help!

Rhome- Since you asked on the other thread, I have gone back to plan 1, with the raised oven/microwave combo at the end of the counter, closest to the woodstove. I do have a second oven with the range.

Deciding to do that was partly due to concerns I had from people here, and on another forum, about the fridge being too close to the woodstove. However, after deciding to move it back, I was very happy about keeping my raised oven. That's what inspired me to start the other thread :)

Are you keeping the island & second sink? If not, where is the DW in Plan 1...to the left of the sink (I hope)?

Actually, I'm open to suggestions :)

The left or right side of the sink would work. We're used to it on the right, but either side would be fine.

Here is a rough sketch of the house, I made for my mom, to show her my idea for the bathrooms. I thought I'd add it, to give you all an idea of how the kitchen relates to the rest of the main floor. There's room for two bedrooms and a bath, upstairs and there's a rec room in the basement with a second fireplace, under the living room/bedroom addition. The rest of it is unfinished cellar/furnace area.

I added the vestibule and mudroom for airlocks (to keep in the heat) and extra storage. There's also a deck in the back and a small screened porch off the bedroom, for my husband's hot tub. His one request! LOL

It's fun to be able to design it just for me and my husband and what we want. It's a family farm, so we'd never plan to sell it. Eventually, some other family member will (hopefully) want it and they will inherit it. Then, if they want to make changes, that's up to them.

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Here's my very primitive sketch of the front, which makes it look a little more cottage than it does now. I am obviously not an artist!

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