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So is the door by the fridge the pantry, or is it missing? Trying to get my bearings and match the layout with the kitchen.

On the layout, what is to the left of the fridge on the wall 90 degrees to the doorway? (the 3 little squares)

In general, the layout seems to be workable, but I'm afraid it's out of scale, since the range is square? Working in accurate scale is important from the beginning, because a few inches here or there can really affect things.

Did you read the thread for those new to kitchen designing? It has some very helpful info.

Here is a link that might be useful: Read Me if You're New to GW Kitchens post

I guess I needed to give more info but got caught up in trying to post photos.

The door by the fridge is the entrance from the dining room. The old pantry is gone; stove moved almost straight back. The 3 squares are pantry type cabinets.

I think the scale is right, used the IKEA design thing & put in measurements. Maybe it would help if I labels things & put measurements on the drawing? Not sure how to do that. I guess you can tell I'm new to this!

The arched wall between the kitchen & breakface wall is load bearing & will stay arched. Didn't offer that option in the layout program.

Alice

Is the room 12 x 11?

Are you not wanting corner cabinets between the stove and sink like you have between the stove and refrigerator?

Can you tell us what you want to end up with? What are your desires for the new kitchen? What will make you love it? What do you dislike now? Do you work alone in the kitchen or with spouse or kids?

It's 12'4" X 11'4".

There is a stack pipe in that corner that cannot be removed. Boxing it in would take a 14 1/2" X 10 1/2" box. The 14 1/2" is the distance from the sink wall. I can't move the stove wall in 10 1/2" because it makes the other corner that is so close the the fridge too tight. I've downsized the fridge to a 30" width. Is there any alternative but to run the cabinets up to it and have a tiled box on the backsplash?

Kids are grown, just husband & myself. I cook daily for us & have some holiday dinners - always Thanksgiving for 20-25. Hard to do on the one counter. Have to be neat & organized. I also garden & have learned to can this year.

I would like my kitchen to be more efficient & have a simpler style. I like the arts & crafts style. The house was built in the 30's. Slowly, we've made improvements - added a detached garage & sunroom. We've lived here 18 years & do not plan on moving.

Alice

I think a layout with dimensions would be really helpful. If you check the "Read Me" thread RHome410 linked to, it will describe the information we need to help with layouts...both what should be on the layout as well as general information to give us.

HTH!

Thank you.

I will rework the layout with dimensions & provide more info.

Alice

Alice, I like much about the layout that you've done. Is the 12'4"x11'4" measurement with the current pantry wall removed?

As you've drawn it now, even after you trim out the pipe near the corner, you would have a nice work area between the sink and range.

Some here are wizards at layouts, though, and will probably come up with some other great ideas!

Sandy

I personally think your kitchen is very cute. I love your cabinets. Are you sure you want to give up that pantry? What is it about your kitchen you don't like?

Hi Sandy. the 12'4" X 11'4" is with the pantry removed.

mom2, thank you. What lead to this was needing a new floor & countertop. Replacing the floor, existing counter & backsplash was going to be about $3,000 & I'll still not have any counterspace, an unfinished pantry, no outlets, etc. Old can be cute but sometimes not very functional.

The corner hutch looks like it's freestanding. Could you put in the dining room or even the breakfast room? Then you can move the fridge to where the corner hutch was. If there's space you could put a small cabinet next to the fridge with a microwave or the micro could go over by the range. Then center the range on the range wall with cabinets on both sides. Maybe recess just the range area into the pantry space if you don't need that part of the pantry. It looks like a tight squeeze anyway. For me, I would keep some pantry because I really like being able to see all I have at once.

With the range wall pushed into the pantry I think you should have room for a movable butcherblock island cart with fold down leaves. That way you can move the cart around to where you need the counter space. It could slide next to the fridge (in place of a base cabinet) when not in use. A neighbor of mine loves her's she slides it over to the fridge when getting stuff out then slides it over the sink to wash and chop. Then slides it over to the stove to cook.

It is freestanding & I've had it before in the breakfast room.

Moving fridge to that space was something I had considered but do you think it would block flow and the door? Also, that area is visible from the dining room & the corner cabinet looks nice from that angle. That was one reason I had considered keeping it there.

On the other hand, it's more cutsy,cottagey then I like (maybe take the top curly top off & paint it a dark neutral?) & I need a tall broom cabinet.

I didn't make it clear, but in the new layout the pantry is gone.

I like the butcherblock cart idea.