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Plumbing Design-- P traps

11 years ago
We are an avid DIY couple about to do a bathroom remodel ourselves. We are doing pretty much the same cabinets in this photo (as seen on Houzz). But our bathroom is quite small, so the cabinet won't be nearly as long (only 26"). We are installing a square above counter sink as well.

This cabinet design is an inset design, so it takes up way more space internally for the drawers to be designed like that.

My design dilemma is this:

I need a low profile P Trap so it doesn't interfere as much with the drawers. I found this p trap which I thought would initially work:

http://www.faucet.com/kingston-brass-dd810-polished-chrome-1-1-4-od-oval-siphon-bottle-trap/f1505153?source=gg-gba-pla_1505153____53566642608&s_kwcid=PTC!pla!!!72161861123!g!!53566642608&gclid=CMeCxqfar8MCFYhbfgod350ApA

But upon reading the specs, the ptrap length is 13"
The center of my drain will be 9.5" from the wall.

Can ptraps like these be cut down in length? Is this something a plumber would do during installation?
Or do I need to find the perfect length ptrap to fit my cabinet/sink design?

It seems counter intuitive to purchase a very expensive ptrap, only to scratch it while trying to cut it. Am I missing something here?

Thanks for any help and advice.

Comments (11)

  • 11 years ago
    The P trap is a thin wall pvc and designed to be cut to fit.
  • 11 years ago
    That makes sense if I was wanting to install a pvc p-trap. But this is a polished chrome model, which I imagine would not only be difficult to cut, but could end up scratched or chipped by doing so.

    Not sure if the link worked, but here it is again:

    http://www.faucet.com/kingston-brass-dd810-polished-chrome-1-1-4-od-oval-siphon-bottle-trap/f1505153?source=gg-gba-pla_1505153____53566642608&s_kwcid=PTC!pla!!!72161861123!g!!53566642608&gclid=CPO92MeVsMMCFY17fgodF2UAjQ

    Thoughts?
  • 11 years ago
    It appears the links are getting changed after posting. Maybe Houzz is trying to eliminate inclusion of web links now.

    Anyways, the p-trap is the:
    Kingston Brass DD8101 Polished Chrome 1-1/4" OD Oval Siphon Bottle Trap
  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago
    Nope all can be cut to fit if needed.
  • 11 years ago
    Awesome thank you!!!
  • 11 years ago
    You are very brave. Why not use PVC?
  • 11 years ago
    Agree PVC is way cheaper and easier. As for the size affecting the drawer space, yes this has been considered. Most homes on our street have this exact bathroom size (it's small) and almost every home has a pedestal sink, which provides absolutely no storage whatsoever. This cabinet will be a vast improvement on the existing bathroom and at least, there will be four drawers for toothpaste, brushes etc.

    A three drawer vanity (upper is false) was considered but opted against. It just didn't feel right for the space, plus internally it wouldn't provide too much more. So inset design it is.

    I am also building a recessed vanity to the left of this cabinet, to provide more storage. It's the bathroom guests would use when visiting our home. And it's only used by two small children.

    I agree it's not ideal but this is a 1950's house. They just didn't build homes that large back then.

    Every project we do is thought out way too much...every detail added for a custom look and feel. Where we live (by the beach) a lot of homes are in the 2-3 million mark. This home won't fetch nearly as much. But for the right buyer, it will end up turn key and have the same look as those homes, but on a much smaller scale.

    First flip. It's a passion of mine. Call me crazy but I love good clean design :-)
  • 11 years ago
    I don't consider myself brave. Just love the challenge. So far we've done pretty much everything ourselves on this house. My detail orientated tendencies combined with my husbands engineering skills makes a great team.

    We've had a few professionals come through our home and ask specifically who did our millwork or walkway etc. They were impressed with what we had done. Said they would hire us--ha!

    Our neighbors think we are workaholics. But I always tell them, "Honestlh, if you can google and follow directions, you too can remodel a house."

    I "get" not everyone can do it....but no kidding--we've put a lot of blood, sweat and beer into this house!!!
  • 10 years ago

    I found this thread because I suspect my contractor installed my trap incorrectly - and looking at your image, what you're calling a "P-trap" is what I've been calling a "Bottle trap" (so I'm a bit confused). How did yours turn out? My suspicion is that the tail pipe from the sink (the part going up/down below the sink) needs to be inserted deep enough into the "bottle" part to be below the water level, to ensure that the swampy exhaust gasses can't sneak back up into the sink and then into the room. Does that sound correct? And if this is the case, then I suspect the plumber needs to supply a new tail pipe, if he really did cut this one too short... any help would be welcomed!

  • 10 years ago


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    Hopefully this image explains a bit of what I'm talking about. I suspect the blue shaded area of the bottle trap is supposed to be full of water at all times. I understand that the tail pipe needs to be submerged in water, but then what stops the gasses from coming in the waste line (the horizontal pipe) and drifting back up the tail pipe around the neck of the sink's tail pipe? Is the horizontal pipe supposed to be somehow sealed to the vertical tail pipe? (If so, how can I take a peek in there to see if the plumber actually did this properly?)