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What does "as soon as soil can be worked" really mean?

11 years ago

I know it might be a dumb question to ask because the ground is frozen or not, right?
But for me it isn't that simple. Right now I got a couple feet of snow over several inches of mulch over my nice garden bed- which if I peeled off the snow and the top of the mulch right now I could fork the bed and work it. And it's seriously too cold to try working and planting. But in the past I've waited too long till everything was really melted off and workable and haven't gotten a good pea crop because it was too wet- or because I waited really too long and late spring heat nixed them. Or because I was too early and my baby peas got frosted/frozen out.

Peas are one of my banes I'm determined to conquer- we love them too much for me to give up just because I apparently can't figure out what "as soon as the soil can be worked" really means.

I even tried to get around this with a fall planting for a late season crop- and apparently picked a too long of a season pea because they got frozen out before I even got blooms :( I guess it was too late for the soil to be worked.

I live in a lakeshore zone 6- east side of Lake Michigan. My last frost date is supposed to be around May 10th.
Right now the pea seed I have on hand is Little Marvel 60 day, Petit Provencal 108 day, Green Arrow 70 day, Sugar Pod 2 68 day, and Alaska 50-60 day. The days are the maturity rates per each kind if that helps.

So is there a way for me to figure out planting dates that don't depend on when the soil can be worked? Or can anyone help me figure out just what that means so I don't end up blowing another season of peas?

Thanks for any help folks can provide :)

Comments (8)

  • 11 years ago

    My 2 c's...

    My interpretation of "as soon as soil can be worked" is when (a) the soil has thawed, and (b) it has dried to the point where the seed won't just rot in the ground. Some years that is late April, but usually I don't get my Spring peas in until the first dry spell in May. If you have raised beds or your soil drains better than mine, chances are you should be able to plant in April most years... but weather & soil conditions are a better indicator of when to plant than any fixed calendar date.

    I've planted "Green Arrow" & "Sugar Lace" snap peas as late as the first week of June, and still had good crops... especially since hot summers have been rare here in recent years.

    For Fall plantings, somewhere around the last week of July - August 1st works well for all but the longest DTM varieties. The "Sugar Lace", in fact, has better germination if planted late, and the peas which ripen in September / October are exceptionally sweet. You are pretty much due East of me (I garden near Lake Winnebago), so dates in that ballpark should work for you as well.

  • 11 years ago

    My definition is the same as zeedman's. I have 6 inch raised beds and plant peas around the first week of April, weather permitting. I presprout them beforehand and when the rootlets start to show I get them in the ground. Works well most years.

    I've read and heard people mention planting them around St. Patrick's Day but that is just too early, in my opinion. I prefer to wait until the ground is a little warmer and drier that way the seeds/sprouts aren't sitting there shivering or worse, rotting.

    Rodney

  • 11 years ago

    concur: the term is meant for traditional soil conditions, so it is not quite as clear for folks using raised beds with maufactured soils or other other fancy new methods. In general you need a warm dry spell after the spring thaw. You don't want to plant in soggy soil and that is especially important with clay soils .Smooth seeded varieties like Alaska, Willet Wonder will tolerate adverse conditions better tha wrinkled seeded varieties.

  • PRO
    11 years ago

    Glad other folks don't go strictly by the "soil worked" statement.

    zeedman, I'm actually over 100 miles south of you. I'm pretty close to the bottom of Lake Michigan- I probably should have said so in my first post. So I'm not sure if that will make a difference or not with timing. And not anything to do with the conversation at hand, but I miss camping at High Cliff.

    forgotten- I didn't realize I could sprout my peas. I figured since they aren't supposed to like transplanting, that meant I couldn't sprout them either. I am so going to do this with some of my peas this year. How long do they take to sprout? I would be doing them in my 65 degreeish dining room where I have south facing windows for a little extra warm if the sun ever comes out again, lol.

    farmerdill- I didn't realize there were smooth and wrinkley peas. All of mine look kind of smooth like the Alaskas, so I think maybe I'm good with adverse conditions peas.

    My beds are pretty good draining- a mix of horse compost, leaves and grass clippings, and sandy loam that gets stirred up every spring, and put to bed with another layer of leaves in the fall. Some are raised beds, and others are lasagne beds, kind of like raised beds without the outside box because I heap them in deep.

  • 11 years ago

    To presprout the peas I soak them in water for a couple hours or so then roll them up in a moist paper towel and place that inside a bag. Make sure the paper towel stays moist but not too wet. A rootlet should appear within a few days. When the root is about an 1/8 inch long (or less) I plant them. If it's any longer you have to be very careful during planting otherwise you risk breaking it off. And I will admit that presprouting might not be worth the hassle if you are planting a lot peas.

    Rodney

  • 11 years ago

    To me "as soon as the soil can be worked" means when you grab a handful of soil, squeeze it, it forms a clump in your hand but crumbles when disturbed, too wet it sticks together like a clump of clay, too dry it won't form a clump when squeezed, just slips through your fingers.

  • 11 years ago

    Exactly. Squeeze a handful of dirt and tap it with your knuckle. It should fall apart.

  • 11 years ago

    Down here in Arkansas, my grandparents usually planted peas around Valentine's Day and always before St Patricks Day, when we planted potatoes. Course, it's rare the ground can't be worked (except for winter rain) here.

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