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11 years ago

My poor kids have had the big box store PAPER shades on their windows for 3.5 years. :( I have finally begun decorating their rooms and am having lots of trouble finding window coverings. My plan was to have simple, white curtains with a blackout liner for two of the rooms and something in a shade of grey for the third room. I was hoping for curtains to keep the rooms looking feminine and homey.

I have now discovered that I can only get custom made ones as there aren't pre-made panels in the size I need. The size I need is about 80"w x 104"l per panel (rod would be 80" wide and set a couple inches from ceiling).

The cheapest I've found a custom pair is $625 including shipping from Tonic Living. I need 3 pairs. $1900 isn't in the budget right now in addition to needing shades for 2 other rooms. I've called local businesses that deal with "budget friendly" (so they say) suppliers such as Katari and Faab, but the quotes I got came in around $1000 per window.

Custom shades don't seem to be much different in price if I want something that's cordless and looks modern and is custom to fit the window. I toyed with the idea of buying 4 - 108" blackout panels for each room from Costco, which would cost me $220 total for each window but having to hem them and take them apart to connect them sounds exhausting and not a task I really have the space or the tools for. Or the skill likely.

2 of the rooms aren't very big, 10' x 11.5'. The final room is in the basement. The room is larger and the window is the same width as the upstairs rooms, but not as tall.

Here is a pic of one of the upstairs rooms to help give me ideas. The other upstairs room is the same layout and has the same bed. The bedding and feature wall colour/pattern differ though.

I also would love ceiling light suggestions as well. I tried the lights in the pic below, but a single bulb doesn't create enough light for the rooms and this fixture unfortunately just looks like a glaring bulb when turned on and is distracting and hard on the eyes. But the style was right for the rooms.


Comments (30)

  • 11 years ago

    I might be misunderstanding something fundamental, but why can't you do standard sizes? From the photo, it looks like you have lots of room to play with above the window. Do you have to have 104" length, or could you hang them lower and do 96"? If the rod is 80" wide, can you do a 44"-50" panel on either side? If you want them fuller, us two panels per side. Pottery Barn Kids is having a sale this weekend and some of the blackout curtains are on sale. They have both white and gray in the cotton twill blackout panels. PB twill panels.

  • 11 years ago

    I purchased PBK panels last year and they didn't work out. They were 44"w x 96"l. They looked horrible as when you pulled them closed, they were like a flat sheet. I definitely needed twice as much fabric. I checked the link you posted, and to get 8 of those white panels (to do the two upstairs rooms) delivered to me in Canada is $1159.71. Since I can get proper sized ones for $600 per room, it wouldn't make any sense to order those. Their Canadian pricing is different than their US pricing and their shipping costs are horrendous.

    Also, set at the height for 96" breaks up the room. I have the rod still set in my other girl's room for when I bought PBK panels last year and I just think it will look better higher. I had actually posted pics here and people said they were not wide enough.

    Last problem is that 96" panels won't work for the basement room at all. The window frame is only 3" from the ceiling so where the rod has to be, the curtains will need to be 102"l to touch the floor. 96" curtains would have the rod hanging in the window instead of above.

  • 11 years ago

    I would hang a decorative rod and use four grommet top blackout panels. They slide open and closed easily. I am also confused about the very long length. I know that I would never pay those high prices for shades. I would want to be able to change them every few years.


    If you want a feminine look, get a double rod and use white sheers underneath.

  • 11 years ago

    The ceilings are 9' which is why the long length. And I like the look of hanging them high that I see all over the decorating web sites nowadays. I have the rod in my other daughter's room set to hang 96" curtains on clips (so it's higher than what it would need to be for grommet curtains) and I don't like how it breaks up the room. I think it's because they each have a feature wall with a glossy, clear pattern on it that is the room's attraction and I wanted the side wall to kind of blend away and a lower rod breaks up that look.

    I'll get a pic of the rod at that height so you folks can see.

    I can get 108" grommet panels from Costco online but I don't see how 4 panels will work well without connecting them. My girls in the upstairs rooms are young and with them pulling them open and closed, I'm sure it will always look horribly uneven. And then I have to worry about a gap on both sides as well as a gap in the middle when closing them for the night, so light doesn't creep in. I did some research on sewing them together but it seems like a lot of work as I'd have to undo the side seams, top and bottom, cut and deal with the lining as well.

  • 11 years ago

    Being a kids room, I'd go to jcpenney and get standard size panels and hang them however high I need to to get them to skim the floor and hang them as stationary panels skimming the sides of each window. I'd then get black out roller shades and inside mount them to the window and call it a day. Shade pulls will keep the edges of the shades neat and reachable.

    ceruleanblue thanked Annie Deighnaugh
  • 11 years ago
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    We don't have JC Penney in Canada and most places around here that sell panels are only 84", which is way too short. I believe IKEA's are longer, the problem there being I can't see them in person first as IKEA is a 6 hour drive from me so I'd have to order online. But that might work. I see Urban Barn also has 96" panels, but I still have to decide if I like that length. I really did want them higher.

    The idea of having the panels just off to the side and decorative instead of functional does open up more possibilities for me though as now I don't have to search for blackout panels. I could ask Tonic Living what a custom pair would be as I assume the cost would be much less without a blackout lining and not being as wide.

    Are there blackout roller shades that aren't vinyl? That has been one of the main reasons I was excluding that idea previously, If I can find something non-vinyl, that would work for me. I just need to make sure they are cordless as my youngest is just 3 so I don't want to have to worry about strangulation.

  • 11 years ago

    Here is the pic of the PBK panels I bought a year or so ago. The finials aren't on the rod in this pic and yes, the one on the right is too short as they screwed up my order and this was my pic to show them that one panel was shorter than the other.

    They are the silk blackout panels. You can see when they are stretched out that they aren't even as wide as the rod. And once I needed double the amount of panels, the cost was as much as custom in the proper sizing so I just sent them back.

    Width obviously won't be as much of a worry for me though if I decide the curtains are just decorative and not functional.

  • 11 years ago

    I use 6 grommet top panels at a large living room window. I close them for privacy each night and open them each morning. It takes approx. 15 seconds to close them and make sure that there are no gaps. The panels came from Wal-Mart. They are very full when closed and are not sewn together.

    ceruleanblue thanked grapefruit1_ar
  • 11 years ago

    Unfortunately our Walmart carries only 84" panels. I also find that blackout panels in general, are almost impossible to find here, let alone trying to find white blackout panels. But if I'm going just decorative, I don't need to worry about blackout.

  • 11 years ago

    I'd go for IKEA panels, up to 118" long, 57" wide. Just get two per side.
    I personally like RITVA and especially Lenda, but Sanella (velvet) are also very pretty.


    ceruleanblue thanked nosoccermom
  • 11 years ago

    Those curtains might not look so bad if they were ironed and folds set into them. You can set folds into curtains and get a custom look by doing the following. Dampen the entire curtain, you can use a spray bottle. Then where it looks like there should be a deep fold, usually where they have a gather or pleat at the top, using your hands run the fold all the way down to the bottom.. You should start at one side and as you make each long pleat run your hand up and down the fold several times until it starts to stay a bit. When all folds have been made in that panel push the entire curtain together into a tight folded panel and tie it so it keeps the folds in place. You my need to re spray from time to time. Let it dry thoroughly then untie the ribbons, string or whatever you used to,hold the folds tightly together and you should have very nice hanging curtains/draperies. I use this method on all of my draperies and curtains and get a really custom look with lovely folds.

  • 11 years ago

    Have you tried Etsy? You can get custom curtains there for a reasonable price.

    Another option is to buy off the shelf, and then sew an extra panel onto the bottom. Either an extra panel of the same fabric, or a contrasting fabric. Easier than sewing a full curtain.

    And what about Bouclair? Do you have one of those nearby? Or Fabricland? They've started getting into more home decor over the last few years.

  • 11 years ago

    Fabric land has tons of blackout curtains!

  • 11 years ago

    walker99sl, the problem is, those curtains weren't even wide enough for the rod. 44" panels just aren't wide enough for an 80" space. All the curtain people I have spoke to said that you typically want to at least double the length of fabric, so I would need 160" wide of fabric at minimum. 88" was nowhere close. I had some curtains that were used to cover a closet opening in our old house so I hung those two panels, 100" of fabric on the just the left half of the rod/window to see if it was too much fabric and it seems just fine. One panel just looks super skimpy.

    I have checked Fabricland and they had lots of 84" length, and then some 96" length. Nothing longer. We don't have Bouclair but I had looked there online and nothing longer than 96".

    I have already considered making them from scratch myself or just sewing onto the bottom but I am not sure I have the space for the task of working with all that fabric and I don't actually own a sewing machine. On top of that, I've only ever sewn in high school sewing class and that was 30 years ago. :) So it might just be an exercise in frustration and wasted fabric. But I am still considering it. Might be a neat way to bring in their feature wall colour as a bottom trim on the curtains.

    I did look at Etsy and for the size I wanted with blackout lining, plus shipping to Canada, it was more expensive than Tonic Living. Or they didn't make the panels any wider than standard width. Or they offered set lengths and not custom lengths, so I'd still need to hem. I am going to check again though now that I am considering not using the curtains as functional.

    I did find that IKEA has a cheap blackout roller blind that is made of polyester with an acrylic backing. So no PVC! And it's really cheap. $45 for the size I'd need.

    Here is a mock up of the high and wide look I'm going for that I found on Tonic Living's FB page.

  • 11 years ago

    Pier one also has curtains in 108 inch lengths.

  • 11 years ago
    mattypies, they don't in Canada. At least my location doesn't. I was just there and they have some 96" and lots of 84".
  • 11 years ago

    That's too bad. I have had luck with pier one order ing things directly to store for me so maybe you could ask.

  • 11 years ago

    Thx graywings123. Measurements are as follows:

    Window: 57"w x 46"h, the frame is 3" around which makes for 63"w x 52"h

    Wall height: 108" (9')

    Window placement: approx. 36" on either side of window to where frame starts, top of frame is at 85" (23" from ceiling)

    I have found this Canadian company that has 108" panels and some of their products are also available to me online at Costco.ca. Home Outfitters has one style of 108" panels, that are faux silk with a light lining (light still comes through) and I did bring them home and the colour choices were terrible. Dark charcoal grey (which I normally love but is too dark for any of the rooms), pukey coloured cream, red and a light mint green.

    Urban Barn has the Kaden panel and a couple colours of their Clooney panel that come in 108". I saw the Kaden panel at the store in grey and it looked like a man's suit and I thought would be great for an office, but not great for my teenager's bedroom. I didn't see the white in real. The main issue with Urban Barn is that they don't give refunds. So if I get something home and dislike it, I am stuck with a credit from the store.

  • 11 years ago
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    I have read all the responses closely, but it looks like Overstock ships to Canada and they have a good selection of 108" blackout draperies, some come in extra wide widths. Have you looked there?

    Overstock 108" Blackout

  • 11 years ago

    Hi Olychick, yes I did look there and it wasn't worth it to get them. For example, the faux silk white blackout panel here for 4 of them including duty/tax/shipping, is $806.19. So it's much cheaper for me to just get custom ones from Tonic Living for $600 that I don't have to sew together 2 panels and hem and have nicer fabric in the end. The double wide velvet panel ends up being $743.57 for 2 panels and I'd still have to hem. Overstock has some cheaper options but they are in colours or patterns that clash with the girls' feature wall colours and bedding patterns.

  • 11 years ago

    Overstock's shipping to Canada is punitive. But, if you live near the border, or are taking a trip any time (or have a friend who is), you can have them shipped to a US address and pick them up.

  • 11 years ago
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    I live 10 hours from the border so we don't make trips to the USA. The last time I was there was in 1989. I have a US address that I can ship to, but shipping from it is expensive and I still have to pay the duty/taxes once the item arrives so it's likely to be not much different. And then if they don't work out, it's very expensive for me to ship them back. That being said, I don't really like any of Overstock's offerings anyway. I want a nice white fabric, and they seem to have faux silk which I'm not a fan of the look and heavy white velvet which I don't think goes with their rooms.

    Even if I had someone that could bring them to me, which I don't, 4 of those faux silk white panels to do one room is still $457.96 once converted to Canadian dollars. And there may be duty and taxes charged to whoever brought them back. And I'd still have to stitch them together and hem them. $600 doesn't sound like a ton more for a fabric I would actually like and the proper size with no work to be done on them.

    Edit: and I see the velvet panels don't come in white, it's ivory or off white, so the colour may not be right anyway. The walls are a creamy off white so something creamy could clash.

    Also, I probably seem like I don't like the ideas being presented to me, but I have been looking for curtains for 3.5 years. I have Googled until my eyes bled and priced out options from stores all over the USA and Canada. The USA options end up being the same cost or more, and I have to alter them once they arrive. The Canadian custom options are minimum $600, up to around $2000.

    So I seems to be left with paying custom prices and getting them sized how I want, IKEA panels and either stitching together or doing stationary, the Canadian company I linked to above and either stitching together or doing stationary, or seeing if I can find 96" panels that I like and altering and adding onto the bottom. Unfortunately I don't like any of those options. Ha ha.

    I suppose 84" panels and adding to the bottom would be an option too. The though of having to find coordinating fabric in my city bring thoughts of dread along with having to buy a sewing machine. We have very little for fabric stores. I'd really be limited to Fabricland for a store that has hours when I could get there. Once I add in a sewing machine, and buying a large table to be able to set up, and fabric costs, I might be the custom price category anyway.

  • 11 years ago
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    I am very appreciative of the blackout blind and stationary panels suggestions though. That led me to find the cost effective IKEA blackout blind and at least save me from having to stitch panels together. Although I'll still be stuck with hemming. Ugh.

    I'm heading out to Fabricland again today just to see if there's a chance they have got any 108" panels in stock.

  • 11 years ago

    Not sure if you've considered the IKEA stationary curtain panels (not drapes) with the blackout blinds

    The Bon Ton Loft · More Info

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    curtain panels


  • 11 years ago
    nosoccermom, we've actually been looking at those this weekend (online). They would definitely work with the look in the rest of our house which is clean and modern.

    I don't quite get how they would work...how many can slide over one another? Would the track system be set so several could slide over one another to the left and right of the window? So that the entire window cold be exposed?
  • 11 years ago
    I forgot the basement bedroom dimensions. The window is 57"w x 28"h with the same 3" trim. The ceiling height is 105" and the top of the window frame is 3" from the ceiling.

    I'm not at home so can't get the left and right distance from the window but the window isn't centred like the other 2 rooms since the room is larger. I'd bet it's about 36" to the left side of the window frame though as I'm quite certain the basement window lines up with the bedroom above it.
  • 11 years ago

    There's a triple rails for layering, e.g. triple kvartal rail

    overlapping panels

    and also a video and another video with overlapping panels

  • 11 years ago
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    The track systems are designed for patio doors or a whole wall of long windows and that sort of thing. I think it would look a little odd on just one window, even if it's a little wider than average. JMO.

  • 11 years ago

    There are a quite a few examples where people use the track panels for regular windows. I don't want to download pics, so these are from Houzz.

    SW 45th · More Info



    another example of a regular window

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