It could be very difficult to ID them if they were florist roses from years ago. Maybe with more pictures of them in all stages and the leaves and whole bush we MIGHT be able to come up with something.

I would post this question on the Antiques Rose Forum - much more traffic on there, and they LOVE to ID roses, modern, florist, anything.

Jackie

For older garden roses, the fragrance can help greatly with ID. Pinks from a picture can be nearly impossible, but one might look at online images of R. La France. As for the second flower, I've seen R. Caribia look like that.

Seil, Jacqueline9CA, Slauters, thank you for the comments.