I have stopped trying to ID noids because of this color change. I will post pictures

This is the plant when I bought it

This is the plant when it rebloomed today after a bloomless period of several months. I can only think it is a difference in culture between the growers environment and my ownl

Hi! Maybe they used plant dye! (Just joking!) I also have a Silver Glade Baubles and a Cora that bloomed white on me in the cooler, lower light winter!

Toni, I am editing this post to revise something I just learned on the Optimara website. Yellowstone, blue and white, sported to form their first yellow, MySunshine. Also, Trinidad is a sport of Yellowstone, which Karin may have posted in the past. Joanne

Joanne

Silver Glade Bauble and Cora are very similar, yes? I believe Silver Glade Bauble has a lighter, thicker leaf than Cora. How do you tell them apart?

Now..anyone want to ID that plant I posted based on the two pictures of the same plant. I say poss O Giselle but..that color change..which is the real noid?

By the way, there is a plant on the Optimara website called Nebraska II that looks a lot like the bright pink and white edged one you posted that your hubby took home. As for leaves, the O plants have somewhat "rubbery" leaves, or flexible leaves, that do not break off easily, and seem to be unique to that brand. As I recall, Baubles has a larger, lighter green leaf, rounded at the edges, and i think solid green.. Cora, if I recall, has smaller, darker, more hairy leaves, pointed at the tips and probably red reverse.

Joanne

Thanks for the prompt reply! You clarified my Cora/Silver Glade Baubles question. I do have both. You sent me Cora and I had Silver Glade Bauble.

I am almost certain the plant I posted with the Geneva edge is Powder Keg. The shop where I bought it sells variegated, girl leaf, fantasy, and other exotic varieties in green plastic pots. I haven't seen any Optimara's there at all.

I like Optimara. The plants are tough. The colors are clear and the blossoms are sticktite. A row of Optimaras is a row of vibrant colors on plants that are, for the most part, identical.

Powder keg is a dark orangey-red. Once the Optimaras grow out, some can develop as large plants. Optimara has an interesting comment on their MySunshine description, their yellow. It is a sport of Yellowstone. The Yellow occurred naturally, so they list the hybridizer as "Nature."

It is interesting that the Cora I sent you also bloomed mostly white. One white that remains true is a Russian.

Joanne

Which Russian White stays true White? I am looking for a good clear stable white although I want a single star, preferably with variegated foliage (dream on!)

let me know if you find one, lucky. sounds awesome. perfect, if it also trails ;-)

Lucky, Several months ago, that question was responded to with photos. I will post the beginning of that thread below. (The AV I have is called Buket Nevesky, but it is not variegated.) Here is the question that was asked on the Forum and the date:

"your favorite white african violets?

Puchinita5January 5, 2015

Hello everyone!

I'm looking to purchase an african violet with white blooms. What are your favorite varieties?

Right now I have been looking at Mas Pillow Talk from violetbarn, but would love to hear your thoughts!"

That picture I posted above, that plant now has solid white blossoms, no pink or purple at all. If this keeps up I am going to have a collection of pure white plants. I wonder what is making these plants so unstable. It is the "thumbprint' "bi-color" blossoms that are doing these tricks.

I like white but..I wonder if that plant is going to bloom bi again or not?

I remember in childhood, my aunt talking about almost all of her violets turning white. Seems odd to me :)

Years ago, I would have thought it was fading. But now, whites are popular.

To bring this thread back around to the original question, :) The plant is producing solid purple blooms, not white. I still do not have a clear idea why this has happened and I wonder if I start leaves from this plant will they produce the original or just plain purple blooms. Anyone with information about this new question.? I am a newbie, so need simple answers. Thank you for all the off subject contribution. It was really interesting. toni

Hi, Toni, This variety is unstable as to how it will bloom. If you start a new plant from a leaf, you might get another solid purple. There is no exact answer or guarantee because the folks at Optimara themselves do not know. They explain this variety was a "sport" of Trinidad II. Then, Yellowstone developed a spontaneous mutation in light yellow called MySunshine. Another sport of Yellowstone is a light pink flower with a silver-green edge called MyDelight.

If your plant can spare a leaf, you can try to restart it to see what happens. if it blooms a third time, it is difficult to predict if it will again show the white edge or will remain solid purple.

The genetics of violets are very complex. A hybridizer named Jeff Smith came up with a list of variations and what is likely to be dominant so that people know what to expect when making crosses or trying to predict future blooms of a plant that has sported. Although I don't recall exactly, I am guessing that the white edge, often referred to as a Geneva edge, is not a dominant trait, so it might disappear.

If you really like the plant as it was originally with the white edge, you can order it directly from Optimara, their mail division is called Selective Gardener.

However, they would not be able to guarantee that the plant will remain stable in its bloom color combination for future blooming. It is just one of those traits of AVs, often, they are not stable in how they bloom, especially with Optimara's. The folks there constantly experiment to come up with different combinations. They often change what they offer. They do strive for stability in how the plant reproduces, as well as novelty in what they offer.

Hope this helps. Joanne