So photo 4 is of pure lobada, correct?

It's easy to see the hybrid influence on the tree your son dug up.

Obviously photos 2 & 3 are of pure lobata.

Thanks Dmac. I do appreciate any acorns you may send (with hybrid potential) from your Urban Pinnacle.

Dax

Hey Dax, how do I get a hold of you through a message?

the first one is the 2nd year of acorns from the mother tree, the next 3 pics are same tree first year from mother tree. as you can see in the pics, the tree has some that resemble more on the burr oak type, and others look more like the Q. Lobata but larger, little bit shallower inner lobes. all acorns same mother tree.

oh, almost forgot.... look how the branches in the 4th pic are more verticle still holding on to the genes of the mother tree as far as branch structure. no acorns yet, so no info on a guess of size, and production amounts, of course a tad early. I can tell you though on the mother tree, it is going to be a fairly med to heavy producer of acorns once it gets going. ;)

Excellent.

Sent a message to you thru Houzz.

Dax

here are the fresh pickings of acorns I sent ya from the mother tree. glad you received them, and I'm excited to see whatcha do with them. i dont know how the Q. Lobata influence in the acorn will do in ur zone though, cheers Dax!

They're dandies. They will be grown out for lobata genes passed into the oaks and planted in an arboretum in Columbia, MO. A large college town.

Dax

awesome! I am moved that they will be used for that Dax. :)

Update 11-12-18, Tree is a Grow'in, putting some girth on the trunk and branches. Fall color is ok for me, I like yeller. ;) Cya peeps.

Nice dude. It's rocketing.

Dax

Thanks Dax

Update 3-11-19, This tree drops it's leaves early in winter, leave color change happens very rapidly also. looking forward to seeing how much it jumps up this year. Cheers!

Update 4-4-19, The tree is starting to push out leaves, has small leaves growing, and already has some catskins. This tree is definitely going to be a strong producer of acorns. I have found through the few years, the acorns are definately smaller than true Burr Oak tree acorns for sure and time will tell. I notice the bark is increasing on the trunk as also the girth of it, and all branches. Going to be a very stately tree in time for sure! God Bless to all. <|>

4-20-19, It's leaved out, and now starting to jump up and out. yayyyyyyyy! Happy Easter to all <|>

Update 7-23-19, the tree is pouring on the growth and the trunk is girthing up. Again, the only downfall so far with this tree is the acorns. They are definitely smaller than true Burr oak acorns which is a positive, but it produces heavy crops every year. This would be a great choice for the land owner that wants to feed game animals, and others! However, for the city home owner that only feeds the local birds, I can tell this tree will require a good deal of labor once acorn season rings in for the drop, and it gets big big big. Still like the tree because it’s what I was looking for, a very stately tree, big big big!

Don't worry, once you start making acorns, the squirrels will come. You'll have to vacuum them up before that happens. ;-)

Nice tree! Thanks for the update!

lol, thanks Bill, welcome to all, gonna try and continue with all of my updates on all of my trees. Maybe it will help someone who’s looking at the same trees I have to give them some insights. Cheers!

Thanks for the updates. I really like seeing how trees progress and grow over time.

Thank you L. Clark, your welcome. ;) and glad to know my informative coverage of my oaks progressions are appreciated.

what is the soil-less area around the tree composed of?

Hey Bill, my whole yard is heavy clay. The compost was ordered and delivered with instructions for it to be yummy to oaks, so its makeup is unknown, sorry. All my oaks i have planted should be ok with heavy clay, i just make sure there is never standing water on their trunk. The hybrid acorns I gave you will thrive in heavy clay also; Quercus Macrocarpa x Quercus Lobata. Please keep me informed, text me with a picture if ya can. i would love to see how their doing. Here's one hybrid acorn i planted some years ago. cheers Bill.

'The hybrid acorns I gave you will thrive in heavy clay '

You must be thinking of someone else, if you're talking about me. I don't recall receiving any and they would only die up here anyways. ;-)

Hello Bill, you are correct Sir, it was Dax that had received some of the hybrid acorns. ;)

Hay Dax, thank you for the pictures and letting me know. Much appreciated, and you are so welcome. I am humbled they will be used at those locations. Awesome!

For sure! I agree 100%!

Update 9-19, tree has grown as seen in the pic.

'Kreider' burr oak (15 yrs old limbed up a bit) and acorn this Sept 2019. Acorns are tasty to eat:

Hey bengz6westmd,
nice looking tree! Thank you for sharing. So I'm seeing that it is also a special verticle version of the burr oak. I'm assuming you treat the acorns and use them for?

The tree is an OIKOS selection for early-bearing acorns that are non-bitter. They have a mild, slight peanut taste, but seems acorn weevils (& squirrels) like them too.

That's nice, and I thank you for giving an update of your different selection of the Burr Oak. big difference from the pic you shared years ago. Much appreciated. :)

End of the growing season update, 11-6-19. The tree has put on a good growth of trunk girth, gained about 2' in height, and has started to widen out. Yayyyyyy! Leaves are starting to turn, and fall. Cheers!

Nice, that's a beauty.

I found a diamond among rocks figuratively speaking this Fall. I have a bur oak seedling that colored orange/yellow like a bright sunset. I can hardly get over it, it's that awesome. Right now it's 8 in. tall and I hope to get (1 maybe 2) back-up's grafted this winter on my callusing pipe.

Happy oak day :-)

Dax

Hey Dad, that's awesome. I would like to see some pics of it! Post it, share it please. Happy Oak Day back at Cha! :)

Oops, typo, these self correcting smart phones sometime change the things we type to things different. I typed, Dax, not Dad, LoL. Again, congrats on the awesome colored Burr Oak!

Geeeeeeez, nice Dax! Has an interesting leaf pattern also, maybe since it's still a seedling.....

Sorry, but I had to laugh when I read the 'Dad' part. ;-))

LoL, I even laughed Bill after I had posted it. And they call these things, Smart Phones..... lol

A flat of Bur looks all the same at that age. See ya's.

ahhhh, makes sense. any possibility they're cross pollinated with something else? maybe a swamp oak or something?

definitely but very subtle morphological variances that only a trained eye would see is generally-speaking. I went to Nauvoo, IL. again this Fall with a group of people (and the guy that grew your seeds) and there were three people examining leaves of oaks and there was not a single oak there (planted/cultivated) that was pure.

Wow! I guess the only way to get pure oaks is to go to a trained experienced tree dealer that would guarantee purity. I know the ones I have sunk in my yard are what they're supposed to be. Although, I would really like to get a Quercus douglasii x Quercus Laceyi cross. I have found with careful irrigation the Quercus Laceyi, it can grow extremely fast, and I would like to have some of the look of the Quercus Douglasii. I guess the only way that could happen is if one could totally isolate the 2 together during pollination, and then plant those acorns etc.. Would be a nice combo I think anyways...

Update 6-6-2020; Spring, the tree is jumping up about another foot or so and I have a surprise! Apparently a pair of Blue Jays have built a nest in the tree. Kinda nice seeing them build it. Thinking I can watch them raise up their youngins this summer.

Here's the pic of the bird, and their nest is hidden unless I was to get up and close. When I have more time, I might include that as well. Be safe all, the world is gett'in purdy crazy!

I just love seeing these posts of how the trees fare over time. Thanks so much for posting!

Welcome indianagardengirl, and thank you for your compliments. Appreciated!

We bought one of these from the local health food store (!) about five years ago. We are both foresters, so we knew how to plant it and how care for it. This tree is absolutely amazing. It grows two feet or so per season (and we are in far northern WI, so the season is short). The habit seems to be upright growth with both straight and crooked laterals. I keep pruning it to keep the branches above our heads. It is growing in a less than optimum place--near a cedar hedge, sidwalk and driveway-and it still grows superbly. the soil is a well-drained fertile very sandy loam, which obviously agrees with the tree. The squirrels go nuts over the acorns--I never get even one to use in decorations. They harvest them all, when they are still green, in a mad frenzy of grabbing acorns and shredding leaves. The acorns that the squirrels forget readily sprout in the grass. All in all, a great tree to have around.

No 2021 update !?

2023 update !?

I have recently sold the property, and I hope this post may help someone that has interests in these wonderful trees, known as oaks! God Bless