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Bantel's Sensation Reversion

10 years ago

Guess what! A single leaf I salvaged from one of the Bantel's offsets I lost since July HAS SPROUTED ROOTS!!!!! I can hardly believe it since 3 of 4 of those offsets croaked, and the 4th is still just sitting there - contemplating suicide.


What does Bantel's revert to?

Comments (17)

  • 10 years ago

    Bummer. It doesn't even keep its columnar growth habit? So sad. I already have plenty of S. trifasciata, and my little Laurentii reversion to add to that.


    Not much to see - just a little leaf cutting. No pup yet. I'll include a photo of its suicidal cousin though.


  • 10 years ago

    It's always worth a try in propagating variegated leaves but you're probably going to get a trifasciata as Stush says. However, it's a VERY long shot but it's possible that you could get something different.

    If the new plant arises from the variegated part of the leaf, you could get an albino which wouldn't be able to survive if cut away. But again, you never know and it doesn't cost anything to give propagation a whirl.

    Russ

    kwie2011 thanked Russ1023 (central Fla)
  • 10 years ago

    Kwie,

    What do you have potted up with that Bantel's Sensation? Looks like Gold Edge Black Futura or some name like equal. It is the base of many variegates like Gold Flame or Kiski. Keep an eye out on this one.

    Stush

  • 10 years ago

    I'm not sure what it is, Stush. I bought it unmarked. I think you're right though. Some possibilities I'd found include Black Star, Black Gold Superba, and Midnight Shine. I bough it with 4 mature leaves, and from the center of those leaves is now emerging a spike of 6-7 new leaves, so it will be interesting as it grows. There were probably half a dozen other varieties in the shop with an identical growth habit but different variegation and/or cross banding. Not one was labeled.

  • 10 years ago

    how is your plant now?


  • 10 years ago

    It has a little pup that appears to be a reversion to trifasciata. It's growing fast, and interestingly, has emerged sooner than roots or pups from the moonshine cuttings in the same pot that are months older.

  • 10 years ago

    how interesting any idea why one is rooting faster than the other?


  • 10 years ago

    My guess is that the trifasciata is just much more vigorous than the cultivars. Either that, or maybe there were already some chemical processes related to rooting going on in the Bantel's Sensation leaf when it was still part of the offset I was trying to root, so maybe that gave it a headstart. The Moonshine cuttings are the same length, but much wider, so it isn't leaf size that gave the trifasciata the advantage.

  • 10 years ago

    My guess is in your first sentence, trifasciata is more vigorous. And it's an all-green plant, so should be a bit stronger than Moonshine with it's silvery covering. You should get Robusta plants from your Moonshine cuts.

    Keep us posted.

    Russ

  • 10 years ago

    Interestingly, Russ, the Bantel's Sensation produced a pup faster than the Moonshine- even though the leaf of the Bantel's has quite a lot of white. I can see why the reverted, all green pup would grow faster once it emerged, but I find it odd that such a white leaf, from SUCH a slow-growing cultivar produced the pup so quickly. The leaf cutting pupped faster than an offset from the same plant rooted. There are forces at work with these plants that I just don't understand.

  • 10 years ago

    Very true about not understanding. We can surmise all we want as to why plants behave as they do, but in the end their instincts trump our so-called intelligence every time.

    Russ

  • 10 years ago
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    don't begrudge the Sansevieria trifasciata they are nice too! (as I pontificate I have but 1, lol!) so be kind to your trifasciata! LOL!

    Fred

  • 10 years ago
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    Sans2014

    don't
    begrudge the Sansevieria trifasciata they are nice too! (as I
    pontificate I have but 1, lol!)

    For me Sansevieria trifasciata is the best Sansevieria (or one of the best). Wolverton use them ("Laurentii"). I respect Wolverton. One man from India use them (He made some interesting things with plants as air filters). I like Sansevieria trifasciata. I have two Sansevieria trifasciata var. "Laurentii". But I will have Sansevieria trifasciata in future (not var.).

    I believe that the plant is more than just appearance. It's something like dog. The dog is not only her or his appearance. It's more. For me the inner world of dog is a more important than outside world (appearance).

    I don't think about appearance of plants at all. I don't care about it at all. For me the more important is the inner world of plants. I decided to buy some plants, not because they look good, but because I liked some of the things inside them (Spider Plant and Sansevieria trifasciata). I saw some interesting thing inside these plants. And I told myself: "WoW, I want to test these things".

  • 10 years ago

    dert17, what do you do for a living? Have you ever thought about Botany as a career? I like S. trifasciata because it grows well and it looks nice.

  • 10 years ago
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    Sans2014, Thank you for this question "Have you ever thought about Botany as a career?" It was interesting for me to think about it.

    I don't think that it will be interesting for you if I will write about myself.

    But I can write some general things. Everyone thinks about own future. Everyone can choose a lot of different ways (roads), A1, A2, .. An.

    I think when we talk about our future we need to think about our passion.

    For example, If we will have road A1 we will have passion B1.

    If we will choose road A2 we will have passion B2.

    ...

    If we will choose road An we will have passion Bn.

    So it's interesting to think about max(B1, ..., Bn). I mean we need to find Bi that will > than any B1, ..., Bn except Bi.

    It's interesting question because without passion you're dead. Passion gives us energy, strength, etc. And it's more interesting to live when you have a lot of passion to work. without passion you're dead, and your work will zero and your success will zero.

    But B1, .. , Bn are not constant. It's functions for time (=T). So we have B1(T), B2(T), ... Bn(T). Our goal is to find Bi(T)->max for us.

    But our future is not only passion. It's also goals. G1(T), G2(T), ..., Gn(T).

    So we have a composite function, F(B(T), G(T)). We want to find maximum F. It's not easy task because you have so many roads. And all roads are interesting. You can do this and this. And you can't know what every road will give to you.

    It will be interesting to do an experiment. To try different roads but we have only 1 life.

    I also like S. trifasciata. Please see this: https://www.flickr.com/photos/25747229@N00/2594003909/

    quote

    "Not only were all the great
    melaleucas dead except for a few with scraggly growth, but the entire
    region was deeply infested by this horrible weed, Sansevieria
    trifasciata. I spoke to the Cook Shire Environmental Officer about this
    and he said it was a continuing problem as it had been sprayed many
    times but was very hardy and resistant to even strong poisons and would
    regrow. It is disgraceful to think that this plant is sold as an
    ornamental in Australia. It is rubbish
    ".

    I like S. trifasciata. She has so many power inside. She live in Africa but she can live in Australia, and in other coutries too. She is so strong.

    I think that for everyone is important to have a lot of passion inside. And S. trifasciata has this passion inside. This passion is called "passion to life".

    I like plants what have a lot of passion to life.

  • 10 years ago

    Interesting point about invasive species. I also see Australia's point of view that it is a noxious weed displacing the native flora. But Sansevieria are a tenacious plant that is good a survival! Thank you for your comments .

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