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placement of different J Maple varieties?

11 years ago

Hi all,

My husband and I bought a rancher 2 years ago that we have just done the very basic preparations around as far as the gardens are concerned. Plant-wise, we had nothing we liked when we moved in, and a *ton* of weeds along with it, so we spent a lot of time getting all that cleared out and now finally have a *virtually* clean canvas (I have a few things planted out there but I'm not sure it pertains to list them out) on 2 sides-- all along the front, and most of the side that you walk into the house on. The front is about 2/3 full sun 1/3 part sun, and the side is part-sun/part-shade the whole length.

Last year I bought 5 JM's that are all in pots:

-a decent size Viridis from a big box store in a 5 gallon pot

and 4 two--year grafts from a recommended (by some of you) seller on ebay. All 4 arrived healthy and made it through the winter just fine and are looking tiny-but-lovely right now with little leaves shooting out all over:

-a coral-barked Fjellheim-- that from averaging out what I can find online, (and all my stats listed are going to be averages of the sometimes-conflicting stats I've read online) is best suited for full sun/part shade though appears to be the most sun-tolerant of the 5, and will grow slowly to about 6-8'tall at maturity, half that wide.

-a Koto No Ito-- part sun/part shade, 8-10'tall, 6-8' wide, *protect from wind.

-a Golden Fullmoon-- part sun/part shade (but better gold color with more sun), *eventually* 15-20' tall, bout the same width

-a Shishigashira (lion's head)-- part sun/part shade (but better gold color with more sun), *eventually* 15-20' tall, 10-15' wide

My dream is to someday have a garden chock full of different JM's and dwarf conifers, with a few other things moseying around amongst them. For this season though, I'd like to figure out where to put the few things I already own. And I wonder if I maybe shouldn't have bought the Golden Fullmoon or Shishigashira since they do get pretty big, eventually. My plan when I bought all of them was to sprinkle them all along the house, in with some conifers and rocks and such. But those 2 are clearly going to be too big eventually to be right next to the house, right? The garden bed extends only to the sidewalk on one side of our front door all around the side (7' of depth from house to sidewalk), but on the other side I can extend it --again, *eventually*-- although right now it's about 10.5' deep from the house, curving more deeply out toward the corner where the full sun is, about 14' at the very end.

Anyone experienced who is able to give me any advice as to if/where I can/should place them in these beds? I plan to keep the 4 JM babies in their little pots for a couple years but would like them to have permanent homes in the ground at some point.

Also, I'm happy to list out the other things (shrubs and dwarf conifers) I have out there if anyone thinks it's relevant.


Thanks friends!

Nicole

(20 min outside Baltimore, zone 7)



Comments (2)

  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    It's a bit difficult to give much advice about placement without seeing the property or the intended areas. As a garden designer, this is exactly what I do for my business but not at all something I am comfortable with without seeing the site. There are just too many variables that need to be taken into consideration that are difficult to communicate just by discussion or even through photos.

    But having said that, let me offer these thoughts to see if they can help you. 'Fjeilheim' can be planted in a tight space - it's a dwarf tree that will probably never exceed 6' tall and about half that width. The 7' deep bed will work fine. 'Koto No Ito' is best seen and admired close up, so site that where it will be very visible. It is very upright in habit (as opposed to broader and spreading) and so does not need a real wide planting area either.

    'Shishigashira' also has a pretty narrow, upright habit and is a very slow grower. I have sited fairly mature ones (about 10' tall) in fairly narrow (maybe 8' wide) planting beds in an entry courtyard and they are very happy in that sort of accommodation.

    The 'Viridis' and 'Golden Full Moon' will eventually develop the widest canopies of your collection if left unpruned. They will look best if allowed sufficient space to grow as they will. The full moon in particular is striking viewed at a distance, so perhaps site that away from the house where it can be viewed from indoors or from a patio. Don't worry about it getting sun - it will thrive and glow in almost complete shade with a gorgeous limey-gold color and much midday sun can scorch that golden foliage. In fact, ALL of these maples will appreciate shade during the hot parts of the day - morning sun fine; afternoon sun not so good.

    HTH

    nnmjdklil thanked gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
  • 11 years ago

    Thank you gardengal-- you make some good points here, very helpful.

    Glad to know the Koto No Ito won't get bigger than 6'... and that you have had good experience with the Shishigashira fairly close to the house. Right now mine is so tiny that it seems it could never get to be 25' but I suppose I need to prepare for it just in case? Some of the ones that pop up under google images are huge!

    I'm not as concerned about space with the Viridis bc I can always prune that a little, and probably will anyway. But the ones that get tall make me nervous; it's not like I would want to hire someone to get up there and prune height, and I've heard that's not so good for the tree anyway? I'll keep the Golden Fullmoon in the pot for longer than the others, I imagine. Someday far far away from today when I've put a decent dent in the work right next to and around the house, I can start focusing on other areas, and find a better permanent home for him. Far far away : )

    I took some pics today but it's a little embarrassing bc everything looks so yucky right now. We are in the process of getting the lawn looking better but as it was 80% weeds when we got here, it's going to take some time too. A reputable lawn service gave us an estimate for $1500/year and no, that's not in the budget for us. So I'm using this forum to walk me through some steps there too! And I couldn't get great angles for the photos bc there's huge red maple right smack in front of our front door. I love the tree but not necessarily where it's sited. Oh well.

    For reference, the hydrangeas were already here and I love them so it's all good there. We are removing all the grass on the inside of the sidewalk on the left side, soon-- meant to last fall but didn't get to it. Also last fall, I planted the DeGroot's Spire, and that short little thing on the right (I lost the tag for when I bought it a few years ago--think it was a Fernspray Gold Dwarf False Cypress?), and the Green Arrow Alaskan Cedar (sunniest spot right corner there). I also have here a freshly arrived mail-order Redbud Hazel --want to site that in a way to maybe hide the gas and electric box-- and 4 more dwarf conifers on the way. Everything I bought is still tiny though so it's going to look a little silly for the next few years regardless I guess. I don't mind though.


    I'll try to post progress pictures along the way. It's going to get better, little by little ; )


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