How is the hardiness compared to mt Royal konrad?

I was lucky enough to find a 10-12' tall greengage yesterday , I might get another there was 3 in yesterday. My wife is going to kill me but I am putting one or two trees in the front and lining the west side of my yard up against the fence also. Right now I just have the back and east side covered in plum apricot and a cherry tree along the fence. Since I cannot find any ptitsen or foffonoff trees this size I may just go with all European .i already have my Royal that produced fruit last year but than dropped all once they got to the size of small grapes,my Italians that have proven hardy for my yard anyways that are pretty cute dwarf trees they outgrew the stock so quickly .

The greengage I got is the green that gets a bit of red on it. Doesn't say the variety it just describes the fruit color. Does anybody know what greengage I may have got? I've done some research but don't know enough about them .

From where and what does the tag say.

It's from a nursery in Vancouver.

Just says prunus greengage and gives a description of the fruit being yellow /light green with some red. I think I know what variety it is konrad I just thought I'd ask you . I just emailed the nursery and they are looking into what greengage it is. They just think it's greengage but as we both know there is some pretty nice versions of this fruit.

Which greengage do you have konrad and how are your yields and production like. I've read the original greengage doesn't yeild high and is kinda unreliable (like we are not used to that on the prairies lol) there is improved versions that are still very old that taste better and have higher yields. Maybe you can give me a report ? I have not planted it yet and was wondering should I put it in south or north side .my Italians survive the south but they have hard times some years.

There are several seedlings floating around amongst US & Canadian nurseries.. the one I think of with little red blush is Green Gage de Bavay.

Mine is the real deal, original one and hard to find in North America. Who knows which one will be better suited for here, time will tell.

Mine can fruit pretty good.

When dark yellow like this, [never has red blush] prime time to pick, just melts in your mouth without any tartness in skin, awesome fruit. I'll be breeding this one this years for the hopes to get the hardiness up.

>>How is the hardiness compared to mt Royal konrad?<<

It is less hardy for sure by one zone, Mt. Royal is zone 4.

Last spring, I believe that Konrad had given me scion wood of 'Greengage' and then the fruit to taste at the Fruit Festival ... truly delicious! Again, have received a few more scions from Konrad (thank you!) and will be doing my grafting soon after this current cold snap is behind us.

Good!...I'll be starting to graft this weekend.

Awesome I can't wait. It's amazing you get these to survive up north. Most sites have it listed as zone 4 They are a lot hardier than people think. Even the Italians I've had for few years now. They are five years at my house now and only two winters got winter kill. I still have a bag of italian wood that's going to get the garbage can soon. what I have survives here konrad I think it would do better for you than it does in calgary.

Well...no intentions of getting into Italians, have told you this before, they're not reliable.

Have similar blue/prune domestica's and hardier,..still testing more. You'll have to show me a pumper crop to turn me around,..lol.

Even if I get a good crop I think they will still only produce if the winter wasn't bad. Every few winters we get a real nasty cold one. Edmonton you guys are a lot more stable weather I'd bet they do better there than here ,that's just my thought. Have you any luck with Stanley plum ?

With a mild winter we had you should be putting out a good crop on the Italian.
Same here with my Green Gage. Stanley I had a couple of times some fruits then the branch died.

The Italian is starting to bloom right now. It's strange one of the Italian trees is blooming and the other only shot out leafs from the buds. Same with my my royal no flowers at all only leafs? Only about a quarter of one of the Italians is shooting out flowers all my other two euro plums didn't flower this year ? Last year the my royal set fruit and dropped them around a grape size?

OK..looks like you had some flower bud kill in winter, which explains that you have no flowers opening. Cool period when in flower can explain that you had poor pollination..thus
fruit drop or tree was too young.

The mt Royal has only been with me for a few years I think it's seen 2-3 winters it's about 8' tall and 2" thick I think it was not ready to produce yet.

We did have one drastic weather change here last winter it was in plus temps than dropped to minus 25 in matter of day or two. That was in November .

The Italians..... I might remove one of them it has not flowered one flower in five years. The other italian does fairly well hopefully I get some plums on it again as its my only plum tree I've ever got fruit off. I reworked the entire top of one of the Italians with mt Royal so hopefully that helps. mt Royal grows so slow hopefully it grows faster on the italian because that tree grows like a weed .

Mt. Royal is naturally dwarfing..so, don't expect much growth. I got one on it's own root, took forever to get tall, might have fruit on first time this year. Just looked today on my
Greengage, with the mild winter we had, it is green to the tip, ..flower buds should be alive as well which should turn out to be a bumper crop if hail don't get them before harvest.

I have grafted lots of Mt. Royal to seedling stock, vigor under stock DOES help
in pushing trees further/faster,..in our harsh environment only a good thing.

Is there anyway to protect from hail konrad. I get harsh hail where I am probably get it the worst just south of calgary we get a lot of unstable weather in next few months .

My italian is flowering today :) was hoping the mtroyal would have some flowers I want to use the pollen and breed the Italian with mtroyal both ways and see what I get.

I espalierd my green gage trees I ended up getting two trees with few long branches perfect for growing on my fence that way my wife doesn't think I'm to nuts lol

Here are my two new greengages .

They will get the heat of my south facing yard but are along the west fence so they will only be exposed from 6am to 1pm of sun. It will be perfect for the winter these are rated zone 4 trees I got the Italian plums on the opposite side of the yard they get blasted with sun and do ok.

A couple branches on the bigger Italian have already pushed about 30-40 flowers out. It will be a bumper crop for this tree lol. It has produced barely anything few plums . This year the weather is hot and dry. I think I'll get more than my zero plums I got last year :)

It's such a mystery why last year the my royal set fruit and winter was bad last year. This year not a single flower yet and we barely had a winter ?

Anybody try Yakima plum in alberta. It's apparently very hardy also like mtRoyal.

You can rig up some hail protection with netting.
https://www.google.ca/search?q=Hail+Netting&espv=2&biw=1458&bih=991&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=sYVRVaX1H8TIsQTugYGoDQ&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ

This gage is an earlier ripening gage, I wonder if that would be ok to try in the prairies/peace country? ... IF we can get it in Canada?

Oullins Golden Gage plum

http://www.orangepippintrees.eu/plum-trees/oullins-golden-gage

I'm not sure but I think konrads peachplum is very similar to golden gage

It would be so cool if peachplum was zone 2b/ 3 hardy, I would want to try to graft it to my plum sucker. I am curious, does peachplum have a peach pit or plum pit? I am also curious about Pluot?

Peach plum is nothing special, harder to pollinate then Sapalta 07-01..just another asian hybrid plum and a shot hole disease magnet...been grafting mine over.

Thank you my friend, I am grateful you share your experiences. Saves so much grief :D

Sure..about 12years! Took about 6 years to get fruit...then another 6 years to evaluate.

Mine preformed well in second year. Got good amount of fruit no die back.

I now know why Konrad loves greengage so much

this tree is so prolific and productive. Had a bad winter in Calgary this year and still fruits and even without pollinators . Not sure the variety of green gage I have I think old greengage

I hope to one day get Konrad's crazy yellow ones :)

The greengage I have are definitely hardier than Italian and definitely hardier than mt royal

After a bumper crop last year...and a mild winter, tree flowered heavily again.

Hi Konrad, not sure if you got my message. I am living in Edmonton & originally from Belgium where Greengage grow like crazy. I don’t know where to find the fruit & plant to grow. Can you please help .

Valerie Faucon

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