zac

Your seedlings may not be the best but are normal and plantable. The issue, IMO, is not the seed source / quality : It has to do with your indoor growing conditions and care.

Now it is Mid May. Where are you located ? Have you planted out any, yet ?

Sey

im location in southern canada , we usually plant out may 24 week end , ive just moved everything outside during the days now to harden off , bout my indoor growing conditions can elaborate on that sey , i cant understand what went wrong or what i could possibly be doing wrong this year this isnt my first time :) and the seedling just seem to be getting worse , where as my other plants or doing normal but not the best either i can say ,,, your sure this isnt a soil problem ?

thanks for the fast reply sey ;)

i just hope there not stunted and they will grow at a normal rate after there moved the the raised beds , kinda hard to see them getting better with the dropping leafs , leaf roll , brown spots and crispy margins . night time temps are reaching 55- 60 now , im just waiting on some soil

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zak

I see alot of things wrong in your pics. At this point, harden them off and get them in the ground asap and hope they recover. They should do much better in a natural environment. Good luck!

Also, when you transplant, bury them deep. Don't worry about the height, it will result in a stronger plant.

Not saying they are but if you buy into the saying, "putting junk in equals getting junk out" then I would hedge my bets and start some new ones too. Without knowing what in your growing methods caused your problems though I'm not sure how much benefit it will be.

Hard to believe that it was multiple contaminated seeds in 3 different varieties but I suppose it is possible. I'd bet on the mix. The giant perilte chunks would bother me greatly and make me wonder what else is in that mix and why such poor drainage. And the leggyness - that's light and air temp issues.

Dave

I differ with Dave, with due respect, on this.
Plants have a genetic blue print. And once given a favorable growing condition, they can recover. This is assuming that your plants are NOT diseased. Tomato plants, to my experience, are some of the resilient plants that I know of, next to onion family.

Another Option:
As an experiment, cut a few , at the soil level and root them. That will be much quicker than starting from seeds at this point in time.
JMO

Sey

Zak, there was another post a week or so ago titled "any hope for these sick plants". It was from a big time grower and he was using the same medium you are for the seedlings, ProMix with the moisture crystals. He also had used ProMix Bx in the past and had no problems. It was suggested to him that he repot his seedlings in a different mix. Once he repotted, his seedlings did fine. You could read that thread to see if it would help you. http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/3036557/any-hope-for-these-sick-plants?n=12

I think these seedlings are too sick to recover. They will be even worse when you'll try to harden them off. It will be too much stress for them. I would just buy plants if I was in your situation. If you decide to buy, you can find plants with several stems, leave one and propagate the others as it was discussed in the recent post.

Transplants are hard to predict. Often after transplanting, the weakest one becomes the strongest, and the strongest fail to take off. Especially tomatoes, which are resilient and hard to kill.

Not saying I would hedge all my bets on those plants though...

I say, This: JUST PLANT THEM ! What do you have to loose ?
I am sure they will make it.
If NOT sure, buy few seedlings as back up.
Also as I suggested , do some rooting from them. That will beat starting from seeds.

Sey

any idea how i can root these stems outside ? seeing as i have alot of seedlings i will try and root some and pot them up in promix bx ,,, if the strongest ones i plant out into the raised beds fail ill have back up rooted ones to replant in the rasied beds

the big chuncks of perlite i added in to the mix my self its just coarse perlite i bought for my peppers , i have a feeling it is the promix bx with water crystals .

thanks for all your advice guys very much appretiate it :)

You have the right soil : Promix Bx.
You can also root in water and once you see roots developing, pot into potting soil'
Here is a current/recent discussion started by Hudson, called:

" Tomato Propagation"
http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/2207385/tomato-propagation?n=7
And here is the link for it

Good Luck !

Sey

sorry sey . i typed that wrong , my lost post i said promix bx ,, mean to say im sure that the problem is this promix brand of potting soil with water crystals is the problem just called promix ( orange bag ) ,,,, i will try rooting some in water than pot them up in the promix bx soil that comes in the big square cube bags like im used to

rooting hormone speed this process up ?

should i get the heat blanket out and make a cloning station near a window ?

thanks guys

zak