Hello AJ and welcome to the rose forum. Where do you live? Part sun in the deep South is quite different than part sun in Maine LOL. The blue spruce and white birch suggest northeast.

I finally got a chance to put my best HTs in a full sun location--not surprisingly--they are doing really well after a full year in the ground. For instance, Signature has more buds on it than it ever had before--and that is a plant the put a bloom on the show table!
Adding color is a nice idea, but if you are going to do it with flowering plants, keep in mind that flowers are fleeting--you will only get them a short time each year. With repeating plants that will be a few short times. And, unless you pick a variety well suited for your climate, you might not even get them every year.

Sun! Roses want full sun to do their best. At least 6 hours and preferably 8 hours a day. Anything less and they may grow but will not bloom well. That fence line is crying out for some ramblers and climbers!

Any where you want to - except under the trees, and some roses don't mind a little shade. LOL.

Im actually in the mountain west. Zone 6. Pretty dry conditions, but not like Arizona desert. We get good, strong sun. I don't really want to do climbers because we plan on replacing the fence in a few years. We will probably do post and rail. Maybe picket. I don't want to have to destroy the plants too. I am picturing these beautiful rose bushes behind a nice, clean, post and rail fence and I'm in love! I guess I just have this big empty slate and I feel so random just putting something right in the middle. But, like I said, the fence out front is now garden beds with an empty 6 foot bed waiting for flowers. I'm thinking the roses might be better on the fence to the right, but I'm wondering about the type of sun it gets over there. It's pretty shady in the morning from the trees, but gets sun from about noon on. I was reading that HTs like morning sun to dry up the dew. Is it that important that I should put them somewhere else?

You have room for 1000 roses! :-) Get some ramblers, climbers, make your gardens has some tiers. Check out French rose garden designs, there are a lot of good ideas...... :-)

I like climbers as you get more bang for your buck. Just get some 4x4x10 pressure treated posts, cut them in half, insert 2 feet into the ground. Then drill a hole through each post about 1 inch down from the top. Add copper caps to each post so the rain doesn’t do a number on them. Insert a cable/wire through each post and pull it tight. That will give you something to attach the canes to. After they get good sized you won’t see the wire. I also add a 1/2 inch dripper hose along the wire. You could plant rows and rows of roses in the space you have.

Toolbelt do you have pictures? Where do you run the wire?

Thanks!

Julie

I think that's a great idea toolbelt. :-)

I have a short cut for doing this: Use the grounmaster posts to hold the 4x4s, since I can't dig 2' holes, that's too much work for me; and I can't drill holes, so I am going to nail the wire on the top of 4x4s. Will that work?? :-)

I would plant them away from where the kids play.

Good point, totally forgot about kids...... :-)

The possibilities are endless for you as long as long as the location is sunny. I would plant hybrid teas, floribundas closer to the house so you can enjoy their beauty and fragrance but definitely big shrubs, ramblers and climbers to the back and as Seil said over the fence. I agree with Zack about colours. Since you have the space I would add perennials too for additional colours for a longer period of flowering and colours. I would definitely add shrubs for the fuller effect while your roses are growing in the spring or during the winter months.

A few more suggestions: 1---If you can get full morning sun & some afternoon shade on your roses, that is good because AM sun dries off the dew helping in disease prevention & PM shade helps keep the sun from fading out your blooms 2---be mindful of trees & large shrubs that have invasive roots, in my area I have seen Silver maples send their roots 25-30' beyond their drip lines to invade some of my rose beds 3---locate your rose beds no more than 100' from a water source because dragging much more than 100' of garden hose around in your yard becomes an unpleasant task & soon you start skimping on watering.

I wouldn't worry about planting ramblers and climbers now. Many will take several years to mature to any size that would make them difficult to deal with when you re-do the fence. And, since you never want to weave the canes through a fence, you just want to tie them to it, you can always untie them and lay them down on the ground until you get the new fence in place.

Wirosaruian is right, morning sun is best and 100' foot hose is more than a struggle to haul around so don't go longer. I know from experience!

Dingo2001 and Summersrhythm,

Here are three pictures. One showing a row of posts with a 9-gage wire run from post to post. I drilled 1/2 inch holes to run the wire through but you could just use a hand saw to cut a V notch in the top of each post. Just make sure the notch is low enough that after laying the wire in it the copper top will fit. I used construction glue to hold the top on. If you don’t use the caps the weather will damage the post tops.
The 9 gage wire is very strong so you may want to use cable instead. Ask the salesmen at Home Depot for cable and Staples for holding the wire down. Make sure they don’t rust….

The picture with the post cap also shows a ‘turnbuckle’ attached to the wire using U-bolts. It allowed me to get the wire nice and tight. You should get by just laying the wire into the notches you sawed then running the cable down the side of the post a few inches. Use a couple staples to hold the wire in place. Only required at the end posts. Any post in between just staple the wire down on top of the post (still needs the notch).

The other picture shows my 1/2 inch drip line that I have attached all around the property at the top of the chain length fence. I connect 1/4 inch lines to go to the rose bushes or any other plant I want to water on a daily basis. I make the lines extra long so over time I can move them around or cut off some to add new dippers. I’ve had this system in place close to 20 years so the cost is almost nothing. Just don’t leave the timers out over Winter or you’ll end up buying new ones each year. Also, note that one 1/2 since can service 600 dippers so you can one very long run. Mine is at least 600 feet long. It goes up and over trellis…. note the 90 degree unit in the picture. At the end you just bend the hose back onto itself and slip a clamp unit in place. I have ‘taps of the 1/2 hose' around the yard where there are low spots so I can drain the complete system come Fall.

Hope all of that helps…

Toolbelt

Thank you very much toolbelt for the detail and photos. I really like the idea. I have 8 ramblers/climbers( rose bands) in pots, when they're bigger, I will set up the posts. The post caps make them look fency. :-) Are those posts you set up for ZDs? I am thinking about moving all my ZDs in one roll, to set up 3 posts.......ZDs grow faster than the rose bands.

They make wooden post caps. Check out Lowes. You can even get solar lights for the posts. You could have someone cut a pyramid point on each post. We have a fence company that will grind a finial on the end of a post so you may want to check for one in your area. The rain would run off instead of soaking down into the post.

I have 3 rows of those posts, two along the side/rear of the house, while the other one is next to our neighbor. Their lawn mower guy kept clipping off any cane that grew on their side of the fence. This wire thingie allowed me to pull the roses back so they are all on my side. Since they are close to 20 years old I didn't want to dig them up or bend them too much.

Most of my roses are ZDs so the answer to your question is yes.

Thanks toolbelt. I will move my other ZDs this coming week, and set up 3 posts next weekend. right now the ZDs are 1.5' tall, I am thinking by the end of season, they should reach 6'. (?) Don't you just love this forum! :-) Thanks again.

AJ, Are you going to set up some posts too? :-)

Toolbelt that looks really cool! Thanks so much for posting the pics and more details! I'm thinking I could modify this for a pillar too. I like the copper caps, makes it look really nice and professional.

Julie

Wow! So many good ideas. I was thinking about posts or some way to get climbers going, but I definitely like the wire idea best. Thanks toolbelt. I'm having a hard time planning this and I've decided that's ok I have my HT right now and I've got 11 plants (including a climber) coming from Brecks (thanks to the deal hunters here). I'm just going to start with those around the fence on the right of the house by the trees. It gets afternoon and evening sun, though, so now I'm questioning my choice. Ugh! I don't have the perfect spot for them. The front of the house gets morning sun, but not enough. The HT has looked sad today. I'm hoping it's just because I moved it. I move it Friday night. Saturday it had two of the most impressive blooms I have seen. Today all the blooms are droopy. Aren't they supposed to last more than a day?

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