The potted sucker is doing well no blooms.yetv

Amanda - just a thought, I have never tried this: what if you un-potted the entire rose, and sort of separated the roots, so that the fort ended up with some roots, and so did the scion? Then of course they would both need to be re-potted in separate pots, and given lots of TLC. If you did that, I would definitely cut down the fort to that first lateral which has leaves on it, so it would not have to support that tall growth, and also it would make it a lot easier to do!

Jackie

That's sounds like a good idea . maybe I am confused , but will that work if the sucker is comming of the side of the grafted part and not out of the soil ?

No. It won't. But Amanda, you know the Fort sucker is likely virused, right? If you know that, fine ... but if you're going to use it for anything other than just growing it, you might want to look for Virus-Indexed stock of Fort.

Your OTHER sucker ... something from Lowe's would almost-certainly be 'Dr. Huey.' It may not bloom next year. But if it goes a couple of years, when it blooms, it should look like below:

I have a few like that I space them out among my more resistant roses . and feeda Bayer product that keeps b.s and mildew down really well . I also would like to try grafting so it's a must have lol . but thanks so much for the head up .

virused? plz plz explain

Here is a good explanation:
http://aces.nmsu.edu/ces/plantclinic/documents/rose-mosaic-virus-_od-9__final.pdf

So the good doctor is a carrier. And if I graft to it the top portion could get it ...

Anything you graft to virused rootstock WILL be virused. Not "could." WILL. That is how it spreads, from grafting, and also in cuttings.

Of course, much of what is in commerce (unless it has been virus-indexed) is ALREADY infected. So your only downside would be the possibility of adding an additional strain or strains of virus to an already infected plant.

But that is not to say that other rootstocks may not also be infected. They can, and in many cases ARE.

Hrm... I will have to watch the magic Dragon for sings of mosaic virus to see if this plant is infected before I use it

Magic Dragon is a Miniature, which very likely may never have been budded. If it has not been budded, it is probably virus-free. But of course, the only way to absolutely verify that is to test it.

To add to the confusion -- some growers DID bud Miniatures. I believe Weeks did. And in England, they are commonly budded. (And yes, Rose Mosaic Virus does exist in England -- we sent it there.)

It's grafted to a standard so it could be viruses right ?

Depends upon whether the stock used to make the standard was virused.