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Am I being unreasonable?

11 years ago

Our kitchen requires 61 sqft of countertop... I know I'm not the only one with this dilemma. ~ we are just a hair over a large slab.

Am I being unreasonable to hope that our fabricator could do with one 66 sqft slab?

I am just putting our layout in for proposals from 3 local fabricators but if I'm going to get any sleep tonight... HELP! What say you, oh brilliant minds and truthful tongues of GW/Houzz.

I have fallen hard for a slab of Nuage Quartzite, but at $3,000 for one slab that is all we could justify buying.

Am I being unreasonable?



Comments (42)

  • 11 years ago

    that is a stunning piece of quartzite. I wouldn't skimp if it's going to mean your edges are going to not match.


    santabarbaratara thanked cpartist
  • 11 years ago

    Does any of that sq ft include a small space like a desk, butlers pantry or powder room where you could use a remnent of something else? Something that compliments that beautiful slab?

    santabarbaratara thanked Lily Spider
  • 11 years ago

    Wow... That goes so perfectly with your door... I can't wait to see your kitchen finished!

  • 11 years ago

    Lily, here is our itty bitty kitchen :) I was thinking that if need be, we could use a remnant on the right side of the stove. There will be a beautiful slab of cypress above that for a bar top.


  • 11 years ago

    It all depends on how you want your seams to look and how you want your grain to run. Computerized templating might help but generally for good seams there is wastage with such a pattern.

    santabarbaratara thanked scrappy25
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    Not sure what you mean by above that will be a bar top? I dId the same quartz in my kitchen and powder room and kinda wish I changed it up a bit.

  • 11 years ago
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    Nope. If you're going to mix materials on your counters, and I'm not sure you should in such a small space, I'd put butcher block on the center portion (only) of the back wall of cabs. The territory between the sink and range is valuable prep space and you could make it beautifully functional with bb just below the open uppers. That said, get your fabricator or stone yard contact to call everyone they know and see of they can locate a remnant of your same stone that could work for you and give him what he needs to make things beautiful. Good luck!

    santabarbaratara thanked eam44
  • 11 years ago

    Above the space to the right of the stove is an opening to the living room where a cypress slab will be installed as a bar top. I was thinking that if there needed to be a remnant piece used, this would be the best spot.

    Are there photos of your kitchen? I would so love to see it.

  • 11 years ago

    Beautiful slab. By the way, $3k is a steal for quartzite. They're running at $7-8k retail here.

    santabarbaratara thanked beachem
  • 11 years ago

    That's a gorgeous slab. I hope it works out for you.

    santabarbaratara thanked romy718
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    11 years ago

    Mathematics doesn't care about "reasonable". Countertop yields are like pregnancy. You either are or you aren't. There is no "kinda".

  • 11 years ago

    Understood, but is it blue or isn't it? I'm getting hope from one hand and a bill for two slabs from the other.

  • 11 years ago

    That's a two slab kitchen. Period. No one slab, even if it didn't have that dramatic directionality. Do the backsplash in the pretty stone, and do a plain jane quartz on the counters.

  • 11 years ago
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    As a point of reference, my soapstone did not have as much directionality as yours. For 55 sf counter we needed 1.5 slabs for good templating.

    Here are some ideas that might work.

    If you were to make the counter to the right of the cooktop wood, you should have 15-18 inches of quartz to the right of the cooktop to make it more visually pleasing. Is that a slide in stove that goes all the way to the wall? If not, you can have the fabricators use strips of quartz in front of and behind the cooktop instead of a cutout- mine was fabricated that way and with the computerized templating it is not visible. Similarly if you use a front to back sink like the Ikea Domsjo apron front, you will not need a sink cutout and save several square feet of quartz. Eliminating the need for cutouts and using only a 15-18 inch piece to the right of the cooktop may well bring you into the one slab range.

  • 11 years ago
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    Sorry, but yeah, you are being unreasonable. A kitchen with 61 square feet of counters is just NOT going to be had out of anything but a solid color jumbo slab of man made quartz. Any natural stone counters will need at least a slab and a half to get good seams. A stone with a lot of dramatic movement, like your choice, will need at least 2 slabs, preferably bookmatched.

  • 11 years ago

    IF and only if, the slab is an exact multiple of the counter depth, AND IF you don't care about seams and matching AND IF there are no cracks or other wastage in the cutting ... they might pull it off.

  • 11 years ago
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    Post your overhead layout, with dimensions, and your slab dimensions, and I'll be happy to show you why it won't work with just one slab. BTW, at 61 square feet, your kitchen is far from ''tiny''. It's on the high side of average. Most kitchens are 50-60 sf of countertop, and even in something plain like Uba Tuba, will need 2 slabs. The average slab size is 60''W and between 96'' and 108'' in length. Jumbo ''island'' slabs are occasionaly to be found, but in U shaped kitchens, and a directional stone, that doesn't really help that situation.

    I do like the suggestion to use it as a ''work of art'' for a full height backsplash and just doing a quiet quartz on the actual counters.

  • 11 years ago

    I like eam44's idea of the butcher block on the center section below the open uppers.


  • 11 years ago
    Thank you for all of the input.
    It's one of those things where I knew the answer but it wasn't what I wanted to hear. The possibility seemed more and more reasonable as my wine glass got less and less full.
    The bright side of things though: $40/sqft makes the $29/sqft for the Costa Esmeralda or the Waterfall seem down right frugal.
    Thank you again for your insight.
  • 11 years ago

    Yes it is beautiful. And yes, $3000 is a steal, I'd grab it and run!


  • 11 years ago

    Thanks Green Design!


  • 11 years ago

    Just passed the butcher block along the back wall idea pass DH ~ it's a thought.

  • 11 years ago

    In the spot under the open shelves, put a piece of stainless steel. I did this in one of my houses and it looks great with the other stainless appliances. I had the piece made by a local welding company and if I remember correctly it was under $200. In your case if you are not planning on tiling the backsplash, you may want to run it up the back wall too. It would be a real focal point.

  • 11 years ago

    Weego thanks for the suggestion but I think we have enough SS. DH would love to do the entire BS behind the stove in SS but I nixed that!

    The cypress bar top was delivered today and it is stunning!! I'm liking eam44's idea even better. We have almost 5ft of left over cypress slab but it is only 13" wide so not enough to fill that space below the open Uppers on the back wall.

    What can we do.......

    Now I get to research butcher blocks, etc.... any input is welcomed!!

  • 11 years ago

    It is gorgeous but Costa Esmeralda is also stunning & would look great with your cabinets. Do you have pics of those slabs?

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    Costa Esmeralda

  • 11 years ago

    or the Waterfall


  • 11 years ago

    or the Surf Green granite that I can get two slabs and still save $1k ....


  • 11 years ago

    Ditto what Romy718 said but I also like the surf green too. I think any of those would be lovely!

  • 11 years ago

    I still like your original choice best

  • 11 years ago

    Beautiful piece of Cypress! A nice hunk of hard Maple butcher block will compliment that nicely. That Costa Esmeralda is gorgeous too, would look very nice with all the wood.

    What type of wood is the floor?

  • 11 years ago

    Originally, I was thinking of a dark mahogany stained bamboo but until we figure out the countertop I am leaving the floor options open.

    My task today is to research butcher blocks.

  • 11 years ago

    I like that surf green best. It would also go very well with the amazing Cypress Bartop and your wood. For myself, I would want a solid surface on that back wall since that is your prime prep area. I would will not want to have to worry about chopping on butcher block or getting it stained/wet.

    santabarbaratara thanked scrappy25
  • 11 years ago

    Our square footage was something like 65 sq ft and we needed 2 slabs of the smaller size. Most of the slabs we looked at were 108" but we found ones we loved that were smaller although I don't know the actual size, maybe about 84 inches long. There may have been a bit left over but we chose the template arrangement and in order to take advantage of any movement direction and especially nice parts, you need to be able to play around a bit with room to spare. I love that Nuage and would see if they can find you a remnant somewhere. Or else the Surf green scores 2nd for me. You would think they would sell you part of another slab and keep the remainders for someone doing a bathroom or something. Or is it that they don't have another slab??

    santabarbaratara thanked silken1
  • 11 years ago

    I can't help with your dilemma but want to say that you've chosen beautiful stones, so I don't think you can make a bad choice. That quartzite is stunning (and would look beautiful paired with a section of butcher block counter if 2 slabs are out of the question), but I also love that Surf Green granite! It's a good problem to have - too many beautiful options! I feel your pain, though; countertops are so hard!

    santabarbaratara thanked dmeah
  • 11 years ago

    I see your layout, but I don't see the actual dimensions of the slab anywhere??

    santabarbaratara thanked User
  • 11 years ago

    Sorry GreenD.

    The Nuage is 123x80 ~ $2,992.00

    The Costa Esmeralda is 116x71 ~ $1,786.00

    The Surf Green is 123x78 ~ $1,070.00


  • 11 years ago

    Silken1 - they have multiple slabs of all three. It is a fun dilemma to have but actually making the choice is like pulling a tooth. At some point I'm just going to have to tie a string to the door knob and slam the door shut!


  • 11 years ago

    romy said " It is gorgeous but Costa Esmeralda is also stunning & would look great with your cabinets. "

    I say ditto.

    santabarbaratara thanked beth09
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    " I would will not want to have to worry about chopping on butcher block or getting it stained/wet."

    Actually, butcher block is an excellent choice for a prep area. I have a 39" section of 1-1/2" thick Maple butcher block counter that I installed 29 years ago. It is my prime prep area, and gets good hard use several times daily. It is pretty much indestructible, and maintenance is almost nil. As long as one is ok with knife marks, it just gets better with age. I'll add that I also have soapstone counters, so you might say I do embrace patina...

    santabarbaratara thanked cookncarpenter
  • 11 years ago

    I think I prefer Surf Green but the CE is beautiful also. Did one of them look better with your cabinet sample? There are tons of pictures of Costa Esmeralda on Houzz, several with your cabinet color.

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