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I'm thinking no bees. Zone 6b.

I have flowers on my tomatoes, but they look like they've given up--like they've closed. Could it be possible that there are no bees to pollinate my tomatoes? The plants themselves are healthy--too much nitrogen? But I used the same compost I always used, plus a handful of bonemeal for each plant when I planted them out.

I've never experienced this in the four years I've been growing tomatoes. They are Amish Paste and Red Pear Piriforms.

Sorry if this is a dumb question. But I really think I'm not going to get tomatoes this year. Northeast PA gardeners, do you have even tiny tomatoes yet?

Comments (19)

  • 11 years ago

    Not sure if you already are or not...but I always give my flowers a gentle tap whenever I am out tending. Just to make sure they get their best chance at pollination. Good luck.

    ilovecucumbers Zone 6b, NE PA thanked lillivewire87
  • 11 years ago

    I was out taking pictures. The plants themselves look weird to me now. They're growing


    small bushy tops, and lots of stems out from the main stem. They just look weird--not unhealthy, but not healthy either. The last photo is the top of one of the Amish Pastes.

  • 11 years ago

    I have never seen a bee on my tomatoes, a few Cabbage Butterflies though.

  • 11 years ago

    Just the other day I caught this Green Metallic Bee going from flower to flower...


  • 11 years ago

    Beautiful tomatoes, rgreen. I wish mine looked like that. I'm having a bad year, and have no idea why.

  • 11 years ago

    I have tomatoes growing but lost a lot of flowers/small fruit due to excess rain. They have been rotting and falling off. :-(

  • 11 years ago

    So sorry. I'm now imagining bunchytop virus and all sorts of issues....but yes, the rain/humidity/wind/you name it has been bad this season. I guess it could be the weather. My tomato plants have never failed. It makes me sick to my stomach...no sauce this year?

  • 11 years ago

    Luckily i already had some fruit prior to the wet weather :-)


  • 11 years ago

    nice!

  • 11 years ago

    Thank you ilove. The last few days have been oppressively hot. I better not complain though. Today I found 2 fruits with what looks to be BER. Lots of fast growth can be good, but it has its down sides. I hope things turn around for your plants sooner rather than later.


    ilovecucumbers Zone 6b, NE PA thanked rgreen48
  • 11 years ago

    To simulate bees ... I've brushed my blooms with an electric toothbrush to stimulate pollenation with good results ...

    ilovecucumbers Zone 6b, NE PA thanked aegis1000
  • 11 years ago
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    TOMATO ANATOMY



    Everything needed is within a close distance.

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    11 years ago

    It could be something other than no bees.. at least if all you are thinking of is honey bees. There are other pollinators in every garden, including other bees. Like right now, I haven't seen a honey bee yet this year, which isn't abnormal since we don't have a hive, wild or domestic, in the area this year. I have seen a couple kinds of bumbles (carpenter bumbles being the top pollinator), solitaries, and a few other pollinators in the blossoms so far.

    Also keep in mind tomatoes are "perfect" blossoms. In that they shouldn't need pollenators. But hey, my tomatoes always seem to do better with bugs flying around them, no matter how perfect they are supposed to be. Wind also plays a role, shaking up those plants.

    It could be a host of other things making your blossoms not produce fruit. Too much temp changes, too much over/under water depending on the rain and whatnot. Too much wind. Nute troubles. Diseases of various sorts.

    ilovecucumbers Zone 6b, NE PA thanked beesneeds
  • 11 years ago

    Tomatoes don't need bees. Pollination is temperature dependent.

    When temperatures rise above 85 to 90 degrees F (depending on humidity) during the day and 75 degrees F at night, pollen will become unviable. Humidity can also come into play. In the extreme humid regions of the U.S., pollen may become so sticky that it does not fall. On the other end of the spectrum, in the arid regions, pollen may become so dry that it does not stick to the female part of the flower. Many gardeners try to gently shake the plant to encourage pollination. (from Bonnie Plants)

    Too much nitrogen will encourage leaf growth at the expense of fruit production.

  • 11 years ago

    I had posted a similar issue on another forum last year, and someone suggested that I just go and give the plants a bit of a shake. Since they are self-pollinating, if there is a lack of wind they might need a bit of help. Nothing to vigorous to damage them, just a rustling.

    I did this a few times over the next couple of weeks, and lo and behold, I got a ton of set fruit. (Then the early blight hit them, and no more tomatoes....which was a whole other story).

  • 11 years ago

    I have a friend who does the electric toothbrush thing and says it increases production 25%. I haven't tried it, but I do give the plant a little shake every now and then.

  • 11 years ago

    I floss mine too

  • 11 years ago

    Thanks, everyone, for your comments and suggestions. Since the original post, I've found a few little tomatoes forming.

    The bad news: Someone definitely sprayed herbicide close to my garden. The twisted stems and weird leaves are giveaways. I've never experienced this issue before.

    The plants look hurt. I know it's silly, but it hurts my heart to see them all gnarled and twisted. And yet...they have flowers. There's hope. :)


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