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Are there any good lo-flo toilets?

11 years ago

Hi everyone, as we have a drought here in CA, I want to find some good lo-flow toilets.

We had a Toto Carolina in a previous home, which is 1.28 gpf but I did find sometimes it needed 2 flushes, which defeats the purpose. Also, we had flapper issues which made it run all the time, every 6 months.

So I was wondering if you have a low-flow toilet that you are happy with, can you share make and model? thank you!!

Comments (21)

  • 11 years ago

    I'm looking for a new toilet for my powder room so I've been researching too. I found
    MaP testing toilets results very important because this tells you about the ability for the toilet to flush properly.

    My currently 1.6 gpf toilets are 16 yo American Standard and they have never, even had to flush twice no matter what gets tossed down the toilet. The only reason why I'm getting a new toilet is I'm updating the room (new counter/sink/faucet) and I want to upgrade to a skirted model. The one I'm considering is American Standard Clean 1.28 gpf toilet - skirted, elongated, comfort height It has the highest MaP flush test score - 1000. It's only sold at Lowes, I believe it's a white labeled AS Cadet 3.

    For comparison they list a Toto Carolina has a borderline acceptable MaP of 350.

    Toto Drake appears to be extremely popular but did not come with a skirted model - and the skirted Totos didn't rate as well. I also considering American Standard Cadet 3 and Studio - and three of these also have the highest MaP flush test score - 1000 and appear to be highly rated on multiple review sites.

    michoumonster thanked alexamorrie
  • 11 years ago

    thank you alexamorrie! i didn't know about MaP. sounds like a great way to choose. I am looking for a skirted, one-piece 1.28 gpf model. the american standard you linked looks very attractive. thank you!

  • 11 years ago

    I have the Toto Drake II, 1.0 gpf and like it very much. It's a little loud due to the cyclone flush but it doesn't really bother me as I'm more concerned about water conservation. It uses only 1/2 gallon by pushing the flush lever quickly and not holding it down. I've rarely had to flush it twice. It's also very easy to clean. It's on HD web site for $536, but I paid $335 on Homeclick about two years ago.

    michoumonster thanked beaniebakes
  • 11 years ago

    thank you beaniebakes. I will look into the toto drake II as well. I guess not all totos are created equal!!

    FYI after researching a bit more, I discovered that our water company is offering a $100 rebate on certain models that are ultra high efficiency. Among those listed, for 1-piece models, there was Toto Ultramax II or the Kohler San Raphael. Toto Drake II was also on the list, as a 2-piece model.

    The American Standard models that qualified for the rebate were 2-piece models, the Cadet flo-wise with pressure-assist or the Yorkville with pressure-assist. It is quite a savings, so I will choose something on this list.

    The American Standard Boulevard and Cadet 3 qualified for a $50 rebate because they use a bit more water.

    Hope this might help people in their toilet decisions!

  • 11 years ago

    Love Toto. Have the Guinivere (skirted model). Buying a second one, non skirted to fit a narrow hall bathroom. Worth the extra $$.

    michoumonster thanked debeko
  • 11 years ago

    I have Lo-flo Kohler toilets and have not had any problems.

    michoumonster thanked corky1_2008 Harris
  • 11 years ago

    (we have a toto drake II and like it very much. It was also on our water rebate program when we got it).

    michoumonster thanked kirkhall
  • 11 years ago

    I have an unskirted Toto Drake 1.28 (don't know if it's a "II" or not). I'm also in California. I was skeptical but it has been a fantastic toilet. I don't have the Sanagloss finish but there are no streaking problems. If you hold the handle down you get a big flush, but I rarely need to do that. It's a great little toilet.

    michoumonster thanked Bunny
  • 11 years ago

    Put the Toto Legato in last year when we remodeled the master bath. Not that impressed. Even though it has sanagloss, anything that sticks to the sides does not get washed down. Yuck. Design wise, it does look great with its clean simple lines and skirted base.

    I am now remodeling the rest of the bathrooms, 2 of which would get used by guests and I'm having a difficult time trying to choose a toilet that will not end up with streaks.


    Also in CA, but don't care about water conservation for a toilet in a guest bathroom ... I want it to flush well and keep a clean bowl. Being a guest and clogging up a toilet or having it end up with streaks is not a good experience for the guest or the host.

    michoumonster thanked chispa
  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Chispa, when I remodeled my guest bath in 2014 I bought all the plumbing fixtures through my KD/BD. I ordered the Toto with 1.6-gallon flush and didn't bother with Sanagloss. When it was delivered I noticed it was 1.2-gallon. I called her and protested and she claimed that CA regulations dictated new toilets be 1.2. I didn't argue but I worried about the missing Sanagloss after reading about streaking. Maybe I just have good aim, but it hasn't been a problem at all.

    michoumonster thanked Bunny
  • 11 years ago

    I have the Toto Aquia which is a dual flush. One side of the button is .09 gallon and the other side is 1.6 gallon. I think it conserves water because usually you will be using the .09 gallon side of the flusher and .09 is pretty good.


    michoumonster thanked jerzeegirl (FL zone 9B)
  • 11 years ago

    ^^^^ I'm guessing you meant 0.9 gal, not .09.

    We have a Kohler dual-flush and it's been great. No issues whatsoever. It's 1.6gal/0.9gal.

    michoumonster thanked andy_e
  • 11 years ago

    We have two American Standard Champion 4 toilets with a larger drain, both with 1.6 gpf, They have worked for 8 years without flaws. No-clogs is important to us. On very rare occasions when our child is very, very enthusiastic with toilet paper they have needed two flushes. The finish is definitely slicker than builders- quality toilets - the AS surface holds very little and scrubs clean much more easily.


    AS also offers 1.28 gpf in the Champion model. If I needed a slightly lower flow that actually worked, I would consider the AS line.

    michoumonster thanked measure_twice
  • 11 years ago

    Well I wrote I was leaning toward the American Standard (AS) - but I'm having trouble finding a plumber that will install AS - they all want to deal with Toto. So I'm leaning toward the Toto Aquia because I want skirted. Drakes do not come skirted and some of the other toilets mentioned by other posters haven't done well in the MAP rating.

    I'm wondering how loud is the Toto Aquia when you flush?


    michoumonster thanked alexamorrie
  • 11 years ago

    but I'm having trouble finding a plumber that will install AS

    Strange. Prehaps Toto has a better profit margin. I cannot blame them.

    they all want to deal with Toto.

    OK, if it works for them. You now have lots of good choices! The AS has a larger diameter flapper on the tank so it empties much faster and moves things along better. Perhaps Toto has a similar feature.

    michoumonster thanked measure_twice
  • 11 years ago

    We put in a Toto Aquia upstairs and a Carlyle II downstairs. Both are skirted, but the Carlyle is one piece and the Aquia is 2. No issues so far, and they seem to need cleaning much less frequently than the Kohlers in our old house, which would get a ring around them even when not being used for a weekend.

    I honestly have not paid much attention to how loud they are-- I guess that means they are not grabbing my attention, not that I can't hear them. The house is still fairly empty and "echo-ey." I'll never have another non-skirted toilet if I can help it!

    michoumonster thanked LE
  • 11 years ago

    those with two-piece, do you find cleaning more difficult than one-piece? i was leaning towards a one-piece for cleaning, but maybe it is not a big difference?

  • 11 years ago

    imo a one-piece is easier to clean and much more sanitary.


    michoumonster thanked silverfox16
  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    silverfox16 or others - why is a one-piece easier to clean and more sanitary? I assumed the reason for a one piece is it won't leak? And thanks for info on the flush of your Toto Carlyle.

    And lori_inthenw_gw thanks for the feedback on the flushing sound of the Toto Aquia.

  • 11 years ago

    Both one- and two-piece can be cleaned very well. The one-piece has fewer nooks and small spaces for dirt to collect. A skirted toilet also helps, it hides the return bend pipes and creates a smooth line to the floor. Look up the images online and it will become more evident.