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Please help with spacing these pole beans

11 years ago

I planted most of my bean seed at 6" apart and now I need to thin them. I did a search on spacing and read quite a few threads about it. I grow on a string trellis, in 100' rows. It seems like a good general rule is 12" apart in the row. But then there are the exceptions, like Fortex does fine at 6" apart in the row, and some Limas do better at 2'.


These are the beans I'm growing this year. Most of them are new to me, so I have no idea whether they have sparse or extra vigorous foliage. I'd be grateful if you could look it over and point out any exceptions to the 12" spacing. Thanks a bunch!


Purple
Podded

Red
Stick

Bird
Egg #3

La
Vignarrone

NC
Cornfield

Neckar
Konigan

Sultan's
Golden

Fortex
Cross

Tobacco
Worm

Gold
Marie

Red
Eye Fall

Striped
Cornfield

Headrick
Greasy

Jembo
Polish

Doyce
Chambers

Grandma
Roberts Purple

Greasy
Back

Gold
of Bacau

Rose

Flamingo

Black
Greasy

Roger
Newsome

Annie
Jackson

Mayflower

Russian
East German Pea Bean

Aunt
Ada

Frank
Barnett

Lamon
Barlotto

NC
Long Greasy

Super
Marconi

Speckled
Cranberry

Dade

Musica

Annelino
Giallo

Greasy
Grit

Menotume

Vermont
Cranberry

Blue
Shackamaxon

Herrenbohli

Kahnawake
Mohawk

Soissons
Vert

Bosnian

Tarbais

Flagg/Chester

True
Red Cranberry

Habalones

Aunt
Mary's Meat

Ideal
Market

Lohrey's
Special

Maria
Zeller

Lazy
Daisy

Whitey
Swanger

Good
Mother Stallard

Potato


Limas:

Black
Jungle

Golden
Lima

Hopi

Violet's
Multicolored

Old
Time Pink & White

Carolina
Red

Christmas


Cow Peas:

21
Pea

Calico
Crowder

Red
Ripper

Piggott
Family

Brita's
Foot Long

Thai
#3

Chinese
Red Noodle


Runner:

Insuk's Wang Kong







Comments (3)

  • 11 years ago

    Wow! That is a remarkable collection. At http://www.heirlooms.org/planting-growing-and-saving-seeds.html Bill Best says the he plants 2 seeds together every 18 inches for an average of 9 inch spacing. Twelve inch spacing is a good average for most beans.

    Here in the PNW, Red Eye Fall branches very heavily with a new vine taking off from each leaf base. So 12 inch spacing will produce a very dense mass of vines. Flamingo also produces dense foliage.

    I plant Tobacco Worm every year and they do fine at two seeds together a foot apart.

    Some people consider Striped Cornfield to be a half runner with most of the beans near the bottom of the vine. Here it is a standard pole bean with light foliage so one plant every six inches like Fortex or Emerite would work.

  • 11 years ago

    Cowpeas generally should be at 3 per foot of row. Agree with drloyd re the rest of the recommendations. I would spread Super Marconi at least 12 inches between plants, it is very vigorous in my experience.

  • 11 years ago

    A couple of corrections... Golden Lima is a regular pole bean, not a lima. It is very similar/identical to Dolloff. Brita's Foot Long is also a common pole bean, not a cowpea. Both of those do well at 12" spacing.

    If you planted at 6" spacing, was that single seeds, or hills? For single seeds, depending upon germination rates, you may not even need to thin. Some varieties are more or less vigorous, but anything between 6-12" for most common beans will work. If you live in a wet or humid climate, though, you may want to use the wider spacing to reduce the chances of disease.

    The only exceptions I see to the 12" rule would be Soissons Vert and Goldmarie, which I would recommend for 6" spacing. Grandma Roberts did very well for me last year when thinned to 2 @ 12". I agree with Drloyd's comments on Flamingo, it grew very densely for me even at 12" spacing between plants. And while Fortex does better at 6" spacing, Fusion's Fortex cross might be more vigorous... maybe he will weigh in on that.

    The cowpea 21 Peas gets very long vines, and is best trellised. I let it trail last year, and some of the vines were 6-8 feet long. Red Ripper, I have been told, is very similar. While I agree with Fusion's general recommendation on cowpea spacing, you might want to give 21 Peas more space (I use 12-15").

    Most runner beans I've grown do well at 12" spacing. When I grew
    Insuk's Wang Kong last year, I used 15" spacing between plants, and the
    trellis was completely covered. I am experimenting with 2@15 this year
    for Gigandes, and the growth to date seems to indicate that may be too
    dense, and 1@15" is probably optimal. I just haven't got the heart to
    kill one of the two, when both have already reached the top of the
    trellis.

    I concur with 24" as a good starting point for limas. Some of the more vigorous varieties can be spaced up to 36" apart, especially in areas with a longer growing season. When I lived in SoCal, I used that spacing for King of the Garden. From the posts I've read here, Black Jungle might need more room also... hopefully someone who has grown it will weigh in with their experiences.

    I plan on growing Violet's Multi-colored limas next year, so Happydog, I am looking forward to your observations (it was bumped this year by Mav72's Filipino lima).


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