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Need Advice re: Aucuba Japonica

11 years ago

Good afternoon all,


I have an aucuba japonica that's seen better days, but don't want to give up on it. Long story short is: it was one of the first plants I purchased and I was ill informed regarding watering frequency --> root rot. A couple weeks ago, I repotted it after removing as much of the rotted root mass as I could identify.


I don't know if I expected it to recover at all, but it doesn't seem to have shown any signs of improvement. Here's the plant:


(apologies for the camera quality -- m7's camera phone had manufacturing issues resulting in poor quality without excellent lighting)

After repotting, I brought it indoors near an east-facing window to aid in its recovery. I read in various places that this plant is noted to be able to do well without long hours of bright light. I also didn't know if being outside in 90+ sunny weather would be stressful in its recovery.


Yesterday, I noticed a schefflera I repotted at the same time was doing poorly as well. Upon further inspection, it seemed like the soil was too moist. I made a makeshift 5-1-1 mix, and suspect that that may be the cause. At the time, I hadn't found any place to find pine bark fines and tried to make due with screening of a bag of pine bark mulch, though I suspect it's didn't end up as homogeneous in size as is recommended. Since repotting these, though, I have managed to locate pine bark fines and have all the needed ingredients for a proper 5-1-1. With all that, my questions are as follows:


1. Broadly, does it seem rescuable?


2. Would repotting it again into a better 5-1-1 mix benefit it more than it would detriment (detriment in that it'll have been repotted twice in a month)?


3. The lower part of the plant (the small side where it forms a Y at the bottom) seems healthier than the top, and has had some slow but new growth. Would there be any benefit in cutting off the large part of the plant and 'starting anew' with the bottom part?


4. Is it suitable to leave this plant indoors while it's recovering? Would placing it on an east-facing patio be a better option?


Thanks in advance,


Steven


Comments (9)

  • 11 years ago

    its obviously in extreme shock ...

    you are on the verge of loving it to death ... except form inserrting finger.. and watering next time the media ...ALMOST DRIES ...

    i suggest you ignore it for 2 months ...

    time will answer all your other issues ...

    i would not have an outdoor plant indoors... ever ...

    i would put it in bright shade ... with the pot completely shaded ...

    i have rarely got a root rot plant to recover .... usually because its much to late before i figured it out ... likes its completely dead.. lol .. you are ahead of me on that curve ...

    but i do know.. i have klilled more things with too much love.. than with benign neglect ... so beat me on that curve also ...

    and one thing for sure.. it aint hungry.. no fert on a stressed plant.. and i hope it wasnt in the media you used ...

    most tree... conifers.. shrubs.. like a sip of water.. and near total drainage.. and near drying in between ,,, that is the basic idea of 5-1-1 ....

    pre wet your mixed media ... plant it ... water it so it settles... and then do not water it again .. until its drying at the depth of you index finger first digit ...

    do not insert plant into dry mix ... .. and swamp it out.. trying to wet dry media ...

    really.. only time will tell .. and you worrying about it.. isnt going to help you.. or the plant... just remember .. you arent a real gardener.. until you have killed every plant.. 3 times ... lol

    ken


  • 11 years ago

    Yeah I've been trying my best not to touch it for the most part. All I've done is remove blackened/dead leaves/parts. No fertilizer involved. Planted it in moist 5-1-1 and then watered to settle.


    Should I leave it alone even if I suspect the cause is in the potting medium? What if the roots continued rotting due to the medium -- should I not attempt to remove rotting root mass?

  • 11 years ago

    I would plant in the ground in a shaded location and cut it back hard. Try to get as much of the old potting mix off the roots as possible - I'd even consider hosing it off - and trim off whatever rotten roots you see. Aucubas in the landscape are incredibly durable, tough plants very tolerant of dry shade and can take considerable abuse. Attempting to grow them indoors in areas where they are fully hardy outside and with an excessively moisture retentive potting soil is just not at all to their liking.

    They typically respond to hard pruning very well and rapidly push out new growth but yours may just be a bit too far gone. All you can do is hope for the best at this point.


  • 11 years ago

    Unfortunately I live in an apartment, no yard :(


    Could you elaborate a bit on "cut it back hard?" I understand generally, but I'm pretty new to all of this. I've seen some posts where people have provided helpful mark-ups of pictures showing where to cut, and it usually seems like they suggest cutting almost everything off with exception of maybe half of the height of the trunk/stem/base (still learning the vocabulary too).


    If mine's possibly a bit too far gone, does that mean that there may be no recovery under any circumstance? If that's the case, could I cut it back hard with the mentality of "nothing to lose?"


    Appreciate the help!

  • 11 years ago

    By "cut back hard" with an aucuba, I mean leaving just a few inches of stalk/trunk remaining. This approach is quite efficient in regenerating leggy, distressed plants in the landscape but I have no idea how one confined indoors will react. And yes, I doubt you have anything to lose by attempting this. I would still remove and replace the potting soil and trim off rotting roots. The fastest draining mix as close as approximate to either the 5-1-1 or gritty mix is preferred.

    And I would place it on the patio as much out of direct sun as possible. And if you are truly in z9, I'd leave it out there. Permanently. As soon as it starts pushing new growth (if it does), apply a dilute liquid fertilizer like Foliage Pro. All containerized plants rely on YOU as their caretaker for any nutrient input as there is nothing to speak of in the potting media.


  • 11 years ago
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    Awesome, thanks.


    Yeah I have Foliage Pro 6-3-9 (I think, I got the one Al recommends), and yeah I'll whip together some gritty mix, cut it back hard, and and cross my fingers.


    I'll also move it to the patio. When you say permanently, is that safe to assume something like "always except when it's going to freeze?" I live in Houston, so that's not very often, but it does happen.

  • 11 years ago

    This is not a tropical plant, part of your problem as you are growing it as a houseplant. They can take 0 degrees in the ground w.o. a blink, but containerized plants are not as cold hardy, still should be safe in Houston.


  • 11 years ago

    Is that yours? That looks fantastic.


    Ideally, mine would stay outdoors. I had it in for a bit because I was worried that the heat would stress it given I'd recently cut off a large portion of its roots. The plan was to wait til it started looking like it was getting past the assumed shock from the root prune and then to move it back out.

  • 11 years ago

    Yes, lower part gets munched on my deer during the winter. Maybe should train it toward a standard form. Located next to a shower, so it gets its share of water.